Immigration, Laura Petra Anderson

tentis moore · 19 Okt 2011 - 23:33

Hey..
I wonder if anyone can find, when Laura Petra Anderson (My great Aunt) immigrated from Denmark to America (USA)??? I dont know her danish name. She born July 24, 1871 Denmark. Died Feb 24, 1917 Wilmington, North Carolina USA. She had two other brothers that came over to America at diff, times. My great grandfather Alfred Jorden Anderson(her brother) and William Andersen.

Lissa Pedersen · 19 Okt 2011 - 23:40

Hi Tentis,

She must be here (from www.ddd.dda.dk):

Name: Andersen, Laura Petrea Occupation: Strikkerske
Age: 25 Destination: Wilmington, N.C.
Contract no.: 229700 Registration date: 11/26/1895
Birth place: ? Birth place: ?
Last res. parish: København Last res. county: København
Last residence: Kbhvn. Destination country: USA
Destination city: Wilmington Destination state: North Carolina
Name of ship: Hekla
IDcode: D9396A2315

Could this be Alfred:
Name: Andersen, Alfred Jørgen Occupation: Sømand
Age: 28 Destination: NY.
Contract no.: 316700 Registration date: 7/4/1906
Birth place: Kbhvn. Birth place: København
Last res. parish: ? Last res. county: - Amerika
Last residence: Amerika Destination country: USA
Destination city: New York City Destination state: New York State
Name of ship: Indirekte
IDcode: I0607A0914

This could be William:

Name: Andersen, William Chr. Otto Occupation: Arbejder
Age: 19 Destination: Wilmington, N.C.
Contract no.: 62000 Registration date: 5/31/1899
Birth place: ? Birth place: ?
Last res. parish: Odense Last res. county: Odense
Last residence: Odense Destination country: USA
Destination city: Wilmington Destination state: North Carolina
Name of ship: Hekla
Remarks: ANM: Hekla IDcode: D9701A1303

Lissa

tentis moore · 19 Okt 2011 - 23:56

Wow Thanks Lissa.
That would be her.. She was heading to her brother in Wilmington. Alfred came over to the USA few months earlier, His brother William came over in 1899 sometime. I was told that Alfred save enuff money to go back to denmark and then came back to the USA in 1906.. So all that sounds right..
Thank you Lissa.. your were a big help.

Lissa Pedersen · 20 Okt 2011 - 00:10

Hi Tentis,

Don't you have any place names where they came from?

Lissa

tentis moore · 20 Okt 2011 - 00:13

I think Copenhagen area.

Lissa Pedersen · 20 Okt 2011 - 00:14

So you don't have their parents' names?

Lissa

Homer Ficken · 20 Okt 2011 - 00:22

Here's Alfred's initial emigration:

Name: Andersen, Alfr. Jørgen Occupation: Landarbejder
Age: 17 Destination: NY.
Contract no.: 36100 Registration date: 3/19/1895
Birth place: ? Birth place: ?
Last res. parish: København Last res. county: København
Last residence: Kbhvn. Destination country: USA
Destination city: New York City Destination state: New York State
Name of ship: Hekla
IDcode: D9396A1413

He arrived New York 6 April 1895, his destination North Carolina.

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Laura P. Andersen arrived New York 13 December 1895. Her destination is listed as Bridgeport, Connecticut. However the passenger before her, Marie E. Jorgensen 28 listed Wilmington, N.C. as destination.

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William Chr. Jørgen Andersen arrived NY 17 June 1899, his destination brother-in-law Jørgensen in Southport, N.C.

tentis moore · 20 Okt 2011 - 00:26

yeah , father Anders Johansen born Dec. 9, 1835, death unknown and mother Karen Sofie Jorgersen born June 17, 1839, death unknown, both born in Denmark, and cant find anything on their deaths.

Lissa Pedersen · 20 Okt 2011 - 00:29

Ok, then - they are here in 1885 - but where is Laura Petrea?:

kbhv, København (Staden), Istedgade (Ulige numre), Kjøbenhavn Udenbys Vester Kvarter, Istedgade 11,matr.70A4H Forhus Stuen, 1, FT-1885, C8888
Navn: Alder: Civilstand: Stilling i husstanden: Erhverv: Fødested:
Anders Johansen 48 Gift Husfader Detailhandler Øverød
Karen Sofie Johansen 45 Gift Husmoder Usserød,Birkerød Sogn
Anna Johansen 17 Ugift Datter Strikkejomfru Kjøbenhavn
Alfred Jørgen Andersen 7 Ugift Søn Kjøbenhavn
William Chr.Otto Andersen 3 Ugift Søn Kjøbenhavn
Lars Peter Andersen 13 Ugift Søn Kjøbenhavn

Lissa

Lissa Pedersen · 20 Okt 2011 - 00:33

And here in 1880:

kbhv, København (Staden), Istedgade, Istedgade 11, 70 a og 4 h, 26, FT-1880, D4129
Navn: Alder: Civilstand: Stilling i husstanden: Erhverv: Fødested:
Anders Johansen 44 Gift Husfader Detailhandler Søllerød Sogn, Københavns Amt
Karen Johansen, f. Jørgensen 40 Gift Hans Kone Hørsholm Sogn, Frederiksborg Amt
Johanne Elisabeth Johansen 16 Ugift Deres Barn Søllerød Sogn, Københavns Amt
Anna Caroline Johansen 11 Ugift Deres Barn København
Laura Petra Johansen 9 Ugift Deres Barn København
Lars Peter Johansen 7 Ugift Deres Barn København
Alfred Jørgen Johansen 2 Ugift Deres Barn København

Lissa

PS: A bit confusing with the last names Andersen and Johansen!

Lissa Pedersen · 20 Okt 2011 - 00:39

This could be Anders Johansen:

kbhv, Sokkelund, Søllerød, Holte By, Et Huus, 25 F3, FT-1845, A0211
Navn: Alder: Civilstand: Stilling i husstanden: Erhverv: Fødested:
Johan Andersen 43 Gift inderste, arbejdsmand, husfader Herstedvester Sogn, Kbh.'s Amt
Ane Pedersen 43 Gift husmoder Søllerød
Anders Johansen 10 Ugift barn Søllerød

And:

kbhv, Sokkelund, Søllerød, Holte, Et Huus, 20 F4, FT-1850, C1546
Navn: Alder: Civilstand: Stilling i husstanden: Erhverv: Fødested:
Johan Andersen 49 Gift Indsidder, Dagleier, Huusfader Herstedøster Sogn, Københavns Amt
Ane Pedersen 48 Gift Hans Kone Søllerød Sogn, Københavns Amt
Anders Johansen 14 Ugift Deres Søn Søllerød Sogn, Københavns Amt
Lars Pedersen 23 Ugift Fraværende - indkaldt til krigstjeneste København
Sidse Christensen 54 Enke Almisselem Søllerød Sogn, Københavns Amt

Lissa

Lissa Pedersen · 20 Okt 2011 - 00:43

This could be Karen Sofie:

frederiksborg, Holbo, Esbønderup, Willingerød Mk, Et Boelssted, 44, FT-1840, C3219
Navn: Alder: Civilstand: Stilling i husstanden: Erhverv: Fødested:
Jørgen Nielsen 52 Gift Lever af Jordbrug
Pernille Taarngreen 48 Gift hans Kone
Ane Cathrine Jørgensdatter 22 Ugift Deres Børn
Johan Jørgensen 16 Ugift Deres Børn
Hanne Kirstine Jørgensdatter 13 Ugift Deres Børn
Ole Jørgensen 11 Ugift Deres Børn, Døvstum
Marie Jørgensdatter 8 Ugift Deres Børn
Maren Jørgensdatter 6 Ugift Deres Børn
Carl Henrik Jørgensen 3 Ugift Deres Børn
Karen Sophie Jørgensdatter 1 Ugift Deres Børn

And:

frederiksborg, Holbo, Esbønderup, Willingerød, et Huus, 33, FT-1845, B3536
Navn: Alder: Civilstand: Stilling i husstanden: Erhverv: Fødested:
Jørgen Nielsen 57 Gift Jordbruger Slaglille Sogn, Sorø Amt [Slaglille sogn, Sorø amt]
Peternille Taarngreen 53 Gift hans Kone Tikjøb Sogn, Fbg Amt [Tikøb sogn, Fborg amt]
Johan Jørgensen 21 Ugift deres Børn her i Sognet [Esbønderup sogn, Fborg amt]
Johanne Kirstine Jørgensdatter 18 Ugift deres Børn her i Sognet [Esbønderup sogn, Fborg amt]
Marie Jørgensdatter 13 Ugift deres Børn her i Sognet [Esbønderup sogn, Fborg amt]
Carl Henrik Jørgensen 8 Ugift deres Børn her i Sognet [Esbønderup sogn, Fborg amt]
Karen Sophie Jørgensdatter 6 Ugift deres Børn her i Sognet [Esbønderup sogn, Fborg amt]

Lissa

Lissa Pedersen · 20 Okt 2011 - 00:53

Anders Johansen, Karen Marie Sofie, William Christian and Oluf August - from www.politietsregisterblade.dk:

http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/index.php?option=com_sfup&controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=2066633&limitstart=20

You will find the family in the 1890 census on Arkivalieronline, living at Istedgade 11, opslag No. 42!

Lissa

Lissa Pedersen · 20 Okt 2011 - 01:25

You will find Anders Johansen's birth - 9 Dec. 1835 - in Søllerød parish (1835-1855) opslag 6 - born to Johan Andersen and Ane Elisabeth Pedersdatter.

Lissa

tentis moore · 20 Okt 2011 - 01:36

Thanks for all you have gotin..But I'm confused on Laura P. Andersen arrived New York 13 December 1895. Her destination is listed as Bridgeport, Connecticut. However the passenger before her, Marie E. Jorgensen 28 listed Wilmington, N.C. as destination... and then William was listed that he was going to his brother in-law Jorgensen in 1899.. And I cant fine any Marie E Jorgensen in Wilmington North Carolina area.. Southport is in the area too.

Homer Ficken · 20 Okt 2011 - 03:26

Citat fra: tentis moore Dato 20 Okt 2011 - 01:36
Thanks for all you have gotin..But I'm confused on Laura P. Andersen arrived New York 13 December 1895. Her destination is listed as Bridgeport, Connecticut. However the passenger before her, Marie E. Jorgensen 28 listed Wilmington, N.C. as destination... and then William was listed that he was going to his brother in-law Jorgensen in 1899.. And I cant fine any Marie E Jorgensen in Wilmington North Carolina area.. Southport is in the area too.

Attached are the two listings in question.

It may be that the scribe who made Laura's listing just got confused or off line with the destinations, but since William listed a Jorgensen I thought it might be significant.

Did Laura or another sister marry a Jorgensen?

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tentis moore · 20 Okt 2011 - 04:08

There have to be another sister marred a jorgensen.. I know who Laura Anderson marred. I found her death certificate....... Alfred and William is buried in the same cemetery with a someone named Niels Jorgensen from Norway..When Alfred first came over to USA, there was a Niels Jorgensen on the same ship(Hekla 1895) with him. I wonder if that Marie E Jorgensen was marred to Niel.. In a 1910 North Carolina, United States Federal Census shows Alfred, William and Niels duarantine together. They all were single at the time, So i think this Marie E Jorgensen was married to him and died before this time.. But i can't find anything on this to make sure.

tentis moore · 20 Okt 2011 - 04:11

If you want ,, check this out.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=jorgensen&GSiman=1&GScid=1975235&GRid=33726618&;

Homer Ficken · 20 Okt 2011 - 19:50

Citat fra: tentis moore Dato 20 Okt 2011 - 04:08
There have to be another sister marred a jorgensen.. I know who Laura Anderson marred. I found her death certificate....... Alfred and William is buried in the same cemetery with a someone named Niels Jorgensen from Norway..When Alfred first came over to USA, there was a Niels Jorgensen on the same ship(Hekla 1895) with him. I wonder if that Marie E Jorgensen was marred to Niel.. In a 1910 North Carolina, United States Federal Census shows Alfred, William and Niels duarantine together. They all were single at the time, So i think this Marie E Jorgensen was married to him and died before this time.. But i can't find anything on this to make sure.

The Niels Jorgensen on the Hekla 1895 was 18 and Danish, destination New York so he was not the older one in North Carolina.

The two Andersen brothers, Niels Jorgensen born 1867 Norway, and a Swede were patients in a Quarantine Station in 1910, probably because they were seamen who had been exposed to an infectious desease (attached). So I think Niels was only a fellow seaman and not a relative.

The destinations have to be a mixup on Laura's 1895 passenger list, as she listed Wilmington NC when she registered to leave in Copenhagen. And here is the Marie E. Jorgensen, who registered the same day:

Name: Jørgensen, Maria Emilie Occupation: Tyende (m/k land)
Age: 28 Destination: N.Y.
Contract no.: 232600 Registration date: 11/26/1895
Birth place: ? Birth place: ?
Last res. parish: ? Last res. county: - Amerika
Last residence: Amerika Destination country: USA
Destination city: New York City Destination state: New York State
Name of ship: Hekla
IDcode: D9396J6205

The 1900 Brunswick County NC census lists a "Petter Jearganson" born 1870 Denmark, a steamboat captain, but his wife was born in NC so she would not be a sister of the Andersens, and I don't find any other Danish born Jorgensen's then in NC.

Unless you also know fate of the older Andersen sisters Johanne Elisabeth and Anna Caroline listed in the 1880 Danish census, perhaps one of them married a Jørgensen?

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tentis moore · 20 Okt 2011 - 23:16

Homer.
You are right about Niels Jorgenson on the 1895 hekla, He was to young.

Do you'll have 1900 or 1905 sensus records in Denmark? See if Alfred Jorden Anderson was there at the time. The 1900 USA sensus. He was nowhere to be found. I think he went back to Denmark before 1900. He save enuff money to come back to USA in 1906.

Kirsten Tatt · 20 Okt 2011 - 23:57

Alfred Jørgen Andersen was registrated May 1 1906
He had been in America and now he was staying in Copenhagen, Halmtorvet 36, cellar
It says that he was selling cigars
He was born 27/7 77 in Copenhagen.

http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/index.php?option=com_sfup&controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=1973081&limitstart=0&Itemid=&lang=en

venlig hilsen Kirsten

Paul Londahl-Smidt · 21 Okt 2011 - 00:22

Alfred Jørgen Andersen is in the 1906 census, Halmtorvet 36, opslag 85. He came to Denmark from Amerika in 1905.

Paul

Homer Ficken · 21 Okt 2011 - 01:44

tentis, I believe this link solves the brother-in-law Jorgensen question (scroll down to line 80): http://www.ncgenweb.us/brunswick/jmarriage.html

Age of Hans P. Jorgenson matches that of the Petter Jearganson" in 1900 census (attached), and even though it said his wife was born in N.C. she must be Laura?

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Homer Ficken · 21 Okt 2011 - 03:55

Laura probably remarried, as her first husband Hans Peter Jorgensen died in Wilmington soon after the 1900 census:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=jorgens&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=29&GScnty=1715&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=35996635&df=all&

(His birthdate has been misread and is 1870, as can be seen on the closeup of stone)

An unfortunate start, as the 1900 also census shows they had one child who had died.

Homer Ficken · 21 Okt 2011 - 04:36

And I see that you have posted Laura's gravesite, in the same cemetery:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSob=c&GScid=281212&GRid=77491010&CScnty=1715&df=30&;

tentis moore · 21 Okt 2011 - 05:15

Wow.. that makes perfect sense now...
So Laura married twice. She married Hans Peter Jorgensen on Dec 5, 1896 And William was going to stay with Hans Peter, His brother in-law. Thanks alot Homer

tentis moore · 21 Okt 2011 - 05:28

on the 1900 NC census, How you spell Peter Jorgersen's name? I can't find it, I want to see the whole page.. I wonder if Alfred Anderson is thier neighbor. Becuz i cant find Alfred nowhere on the 1900 census.

Homer Ficken · 21 Okt 2011 - 05:53

Citat fra: tentis moore Dato 21 Okt 2011 - 05:28
on the 1900 NC census, How you spell Peter Jorgersen's name? I can't find it, I want to see the whole page.. I wonder if Alfred Anderson is thier neighbor. Becuz i cant find Alfred nowhere on the 1900 census.

His name is spelled "Petter Jeorganson" and I'm sure his wife's poorly written name is Laura, as the name above them is a Laura, and the L in both looks like an S.

Alfred is not on the page but on another page there's an Andrew Anderson born Denmark who possibly could be him, except birth and immigration years are off.

tentis moore · 21 Okt 2011 - 06:15

I found that census, I seen the name Andrew Anderson before. He staying with James Berg. James Berg is on William Andersen death certificate as his informant. I kinda figure they know all each other.

Kirsten Tatt · 21 Okt 2011 - 09:35

??????

Navn: Berg, Jens Stilling: Sejlmager
Alder: 41 Bestemmelsessted: Wilmington, NC.
Kontrakt nr.: 274500 Forevisningsdato: 10/20/1884 Sidste oph.sogn: København Sidste oph. amt: København
Sidste oph.sted: Kbhvn. Bestemmelses land: USA
Bestemmelses by: Wilmington Bestemmelses stat: North Carolina
Skibsnavn: Indirekte
IDkode: I8486B0601