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Robert Anderson
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« Dato: Tirsdag 08 05 2012, 19:36 » |
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Seeking information regarding my great-great grandparents Anders OLSEN who married Kirsten NIELSDATTER 14 Jan 1853 in Valse Parish, Maribo, Denmark. Anders may have owned & operated a flour mill in Denmark, probably in Maribo.
They had the following children (with birth dates):
NOTE: In the U.S. we know all of them by the surname of ANDERSEN. In Denmark we are not sure. The females were possibly ANDERSDATTER.
1. Maren Helena Johanna Olene ANDERSEN 09 May 1854 2. Ole Kristian Vilhelm ANDERSEN 28 Sep 1855 3. Karen Christine Nelsena ANDERSEN 26 Feb 1858 4. Kirsten Anna Petria ANDERSEN 24 Jul 1859 5. Marie Karoline ANDERSEN 26 Mar 1861 6. Niels Peter Fredrick ANDERSEN 23 Jul 1863 7. Bodil Katrine Elenora “Nora” ANDERSEN 22 Jun 1865 8. Hans Ludvig Andreas ANDERSEN 24 Jun 1867 (my great-grandfather) 9. Karen ANDERSEN Feb 1869 10. Francine "Sena" Dorothea Cecelia ANDERSEN 09 Jan 1871 11. Jens Jakob ANDERSEN 28 Aug 1874
Anders and Kirsten and most of the children immigrated to Green Bay, Wisconsin, then to Iowa, mostly to Cass & Audubon Counties. Five farmed in Cass or Audubon Co., Iowa.
Would like to find information on Anders' and Kirsten's parents.
Thanks for any help you may provide.
Bob Anderson (my grandfather ANDERSON married an ANDERSEN) Omaha, Nebraska USA
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John Wrenholt
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« Svar #1 Dato: Tirsdag 08 05 2012, 22:08 » |
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The marriage record for the couple can be found AO: 1846-1859 Vaalse, Falster Nørre, Maribo ops 71.
Here is the family in the 1880 census.
Maribo, Lollands Sønder, Vestenskov, Læsø By, , Svanekjær Mølle, 91 F2, FT-1880 Anders Olsen 53 Gift Husfader, Mølleforpagter Horreby Sogn, Maribo Amt Kirsten Olsen født Nielsen 48 Gift hans Kone Vaalse Sogn, Maribo Amt Anna Andersen 20 Ugift deres Barn, Syjomfru Torkildstrup Sogn, Maribo Amt Hans Ludvig Andersen 12 Ugift deres Barn Torkildstrup Sogn, Maribo Amt Fransine Andersen 9 Ugift deres Barn Torkildstrup Sogn, Maribo Amt Jens Jacob Andersen 5 Ugift deres Barn Torkildstrup Sogn, Maribo Amt
Anders Olsen was born Nov 25, 1826 in Horreby sogn. (AO: 1813-1836 Horreby, Falster Sønder, Maribo ops 20). The record is hard to read but according to FamilySearch his parents were Ole Olesen and Karen Nielsdatter. Ole Olesen was a "hjulmand" or wheelwright. He died on Sep 14, 1829 at the age of 49. (AO: 1813-1836 Horreby ops 124).
Anders and his mother in 1834 census: Maribo, Falsters Sønder, Horreby, Horrebye, , en gaard, 15, FT-1834 Anders Pedersen 32 Gift gaardmand Johanne Andersdatter 27 Gift hans kone Peder Andersen 3 Ugift deres børn Ane Andersdatter 1 Ugift deres børn Karen Nielsdatter 57 Enke forsørges af huusfaderen Anders Olsen 7 Ugift forsørges af huusfaderen Klaus Rasmussen 24 Ugift tjenestefolk Ole Jensen 16 Ugift tjenestefolk Karen Olsdatter 23 Ugift tjenestefolk Karen Andersdatter 22 Ugift tjenestefolk Dorthe Simonsdatter 9 Ugift tjenestefolk
In 1845 Anders is a "millboy" Maribo, Falsters Nørre, Maglebrænde, Maglebrænde Bye, , en Mølle, 37, FT-1845 Anders Olsen 17 Ugift Møllerdreng [Lars Rasmussen og Christiane Pedersdatter] Horrebye Sogn
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Ralph Rasmussen
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« Svar #2 Dato: Onsdag 09 05 2012, 03:23 » |
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Kirsten Nielsdatter is a little bit of a study. Although her birth in Vålse is noted at her confirmation in 1846 in Vålse, it is not in the birth record.
Her parents are 'Gaardmand' Niels Pedersen Møller and Karen Olesdatter, and her birth date is August 8, 1831.
mvh -Ralph
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« Svar #3 Dato: Onsdag 09 05 2012, 05:07 » |
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Kirsten's father, Niels Pedersen Møller, died already in 1832 (AO Vålse 1832-1846, opslag 176 #11). Karen Olesdatter remarried, to Niels Hansen in 1833 (ops. 141).
So Kirsten appears here in 1845:
Maribo, Falsters Nørre, Vaalse, Vaalse Bye, en Gaard, 22, FT-1845, b8925 Navn: Alder: Civilstand: Stilling i husstanden: Erhverv: Fødested: Niels Hansen 42 Gift Gaardmand her i Sognet Karen Olsdatter 41 Gift hans Kone [Niels Hansen] Kippinge Sogn, Mariboe Amt Peder Nielsen 16 - deres børn [Niels Hansen og Karen Olsdatter] her i Sognet Kirsten Nielsdatter 14 - deres børn [Niels Hansen og Karen Olsdatter] do [her i Sognet] Magdalene Nielsdatter 11 - deres børn [Niels Hansen og Karen Olsdatter] do [her i Sognet] Hans Nielsen 8 - deres børn [Niels Hansen og Karen Olsdatter] do [her i Sognet] Maren Nielsdatter 6 - deres børn [Niels Hansen og Karen Olsdatter] do [her i Sognet] Niels Nielsen 3 - deres børn [Niels Hansen og Karen Olsdatter] do [her i Sognet]
'Med venlig hilsen' -Ralph
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« Svar #4 Dato: Onsdag 09 05 2012, 05:38 » |
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Thanks Ralph - so here is more about her:
1834 Maribo, Falsters Nørre, Vaalse, Vaalse Bye, en Gaard, 72, FT-1834, B8900 Niels Hansen 31 Gift Gaardmand Karen Olsdatter 30 Gift hans Kone Ole Christian 8 Ugift deres Børn Peder Nielsen 5 Ugift deres Børn Kirsten Nielsdatter 3 Ugift deres Børn Peder Rasmussen 29 Ugift Tjenestefolk Henning Rasmussen 19 Ugift Tjenestefolk Niels Jensen 37 Enkemand Tjenestefolk Kirsten Jensdatter 26 Ugift Tjenestefolk
1840 Maribo, Falsters Nørre, Vaalse, Vaalse Bye, en Gaard, 70, FT-1840, B8914 Niels Hansen 37 Gift Gaardmand Karen Olsdatter 36 Gift hans Kone Peder Nielsen 11 Ugift deres Børn Jens Nielsen 3 Ugift deres Børn Kirsten Nielsdatter 9 Ugift deres Børn Johanne Nielsdatter 6 Ugift deres Børn Maren Nielsdatter 1 Ugift deres Børn Rasmus Jensen 24 Ugift Tjenestefolk Christian Groth 19 Ugift Tjenestefolk Ane Larsdatter 21 Ugift Tjenestefolk
1845 Maribo, Falsters Nørre, Vaalse, Vaalse Bye, en Gaard, 22, FT-1845, b8925 Niels Hansen 42 Gift Gaardmand her i Sognet Karen Olsdatter 41 Gift hans Kone Kippinge Sogn, Mariboe Amt Peder Nielsen 16 - deres børn her i Sognet Kirsten Nielsdatter 14 - deres børn do [her i Sognet] Magdalene Nielsdatter 11 - deres børn do [her i Sognet] Hans Nielsen 8 - deres børn do [her i Sognet] Maren Nielsdatter 6 - deres børn do [her i Sognet] Niels Nielsen 3 - deres børn do [her i Sognet] Christian Rasmussen 23 Ugift deres Tjenestefolk do [her i Sognet] Sophia Larsdatter 26 Ugift deres Tjenestefolk do [her i Sognet]
1850 Maribo, Falsters Nørre, Vaalse, Vaalse Bye, en Gaard, 83, FT-1850, B8938 Niels Hansen Møller 47 Gift Gaardmand Vaalse Karen Olsdatter 48 Gift hans Kone Kippinge Peder Nielsen 22 Ugift deres Børn Vaalse Kirsten Nielsdatter 20 - deres Børn do [Vaalse] Johanne Magdalene 16 - deres Børn do [Vaalse] Jens Peder 14 - deres Børn do [Vaalse] Maren Nielsdatter 12 - deres Børn do [Vaalse] Niels Nielsen 9 - deres Børn do [Vaalse] Hans Nielsen 6 - deres Børn do [Vaalse] Ane Sophie Larsdatter 32 - Tjenestefolk do [Vaalse] Niels Pedersen 19 - Tjenestefolk do [Vaalse]
1855 - the family after Kirsten has left Maribo, Falsters Nørre, Vaalse, Vaalse By, En Gaard, 82, FT-1855, C8082 Niels Hansen 52 Gift Gaardmand Vaalse Sogn Karen Olsdatter 51 Gift hans kone Kippinge Sogn Peder Nielsen 26 Ugift deres børn Vaalse Sogn Jens P. Nielsen 18 Ugift deres børn Vaalse Sogn Maren Nielsdatter 16 Ugift deres børn Vaalse Sogn Niels Nielsen 13 Ugift deres børn Vaalse Sogn Hans Nielsen 10 Ugift deres børn Vaalse Sogn Niels Pedersen 23 Ugift tjenestefolk Vaalse Sogn Maren Jensdatter 22 Ugift tjenestefolk Kippinge Sogn
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« Svar #5 Dato: Onsdag 09 05 2012, 05:54 » |
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A bit more:
Karen Olesdatter is said to be from Kippinge, so in spite of the difference in nickname this looks very much like her first marriage, to Kirsten's father: Kippinge 1814-1832, opslag 147 #4. Niels P. would be born about 1786. His guarantor may be his father, as the nickname is the same. If the family owned a mill, then Niels Pedersen may have been better known for that than for a farm that a previous generation managed.
mvh -Ralph
PS A further look at the censuses, above, leaves open the possibility that Møller was a name attached to the farm Karen now lived on.
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