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Forfatter Emne: transcription help for 1752 record  (Læst 215 gange)
Susan Russell
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« Dato: Tirsdag 26 06 2012, 21:24 »

Hello, I'm looking for help transcribing a record. I'll try to post the picture, but I've never done that before, so just in case I'll also list the book.

1723 - 1776 Strøby, Stevns, Præstø op. 31. Left side, third record.

Here's what I've got:

12 p. Trin. Døbt Peder ? ?: kaldet Giorel
Kirstine, ? af Mads Jensens hustru; ?
Jens Andersen, ? ? ?, Christen ?
Niels Christensens ?

I especially would like to know the father's last name. At first I thought it was "Nielsen" but looking closer it seems more like "Rieldsen" or "Kieldsen" but those seem like pretty unusual names. It looks to me like the mother's name is not mentioned -- please let me know if I'm missing something.

Also, the child's name in her marriage record later is "Giørild Kirstine Pedersdatter."

Lastly, does anyone know a website where I can figure out how to calculate dates like "12 p. Trin."?

Thank you!

Susan Russell

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Ralph Rasmussen
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« Svar #1 Dato: Onsdag 27 06 2012, 01:15 »

A preliminary:  I use a Danish site http://www.morchslaegt.dk/bauers/bauer.htm to unravel most liturgical dates.

I read here:

12 ps Trinit. døbt Peder Kieldsens datter kaldet Giørel
Kirstine
frembaaren af Mads Jensens Hustrue; faddere:
Jens Andersen Peder Mortesens [sic] Hustrue, Christen Erichsen
Niels Christesens Hustrue

In Oesters survey (Efterretning) of 1772 there are two Kieldsens in Strøby, both Gaardmænd a bit old to be brothers to Giørild.

'med venlig hilsen'
-Ralph
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Ralph Rasmussen
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Susan Russell
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« Svar #2 Dato: Søndag 01 07 2012, 18:27 »

Ralph, thank you for the transcription!

I am not familiar with the Oesters survey. If the men were with surname "Kieldsen" could they be brothers to Peder Kieldsen?

Looking at the 1787 Strøby census there is a Christen Kieldsen (b. 1727) and Jacob Kieldsen (b. 1721) who seem to be in the same generation as Peder. I will have to dig through the church books looking for "Kield" or "Kieldsen."

Thank you for the link to the liturgical date site. Is "12 s.e. Trin" there the same as "12 ps Trin" in the church records?

Thank you for your help!

Susan
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« Svar #3 Dato: Søndag 01 07 2012, 21:07 »

Danish 'Søndag efter Treenighed' = Latin 'dominica post Trinitatis' = English 'Sunday after Trinity'.  P with a slash is ps, just as r with a slash is rs, usually rendered Rx, for rescriptio or responsio.

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Susan Russell
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« Svar #4 Dato: Fredag 06 07 2012, 00:56 »

That site is going to be a great help to me in determining dates.

Thank you!

Susan
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