Help translating to English two entries

Startet af Claude Anders Hanson, 01 Aug 2016 - 04:57

Forrige emne - Næste emne

Claude Anders Hanson


http://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn346/churchbook/source139115/opslag15246729

Could somebody please read the bottom two entries on page 209.  I am trying to find that needle in the haystack who was listed as the father of Anders Hansen in his baptism record.  The record stated that the putative father was Hans Andersen from Orderup, Toftlund parish in Haderslev County.  It stated he was also known as Anders Traeskomand [I understand that words means clog maker]  Since Anders Hansen (my gggrandfaher) was born in 1803 in Vejrup Parish, Ribe County, I checked the census for 1801 for Hans Anderson in Orderuup, Toftlund parish and didn't find one.  I did find a Anders Hansen whose occupation was listed as Traeskomand ... I don't know if there is a connection... however, it might be a possibility.

Lynn Christiansen

Claude---

1st one:
D: 30 Oct født og døbt samme dag {born and baptized the same day}
Dorthe Kristine Juul
forældrenen var {parents were}
Anders Hansen og Woldbor Xstens d{tr} (Christensdatter}
Faderene varen {Witnesses were}
Maren Smed, Margrethe Jasd; Ane
Maria Jespersd:Iver Sørensen,
Ander Nielsen

The 2nd one:
1789
d: 18 April født og døbt d: 20 dito {born on 18 April and baptized the 20 April}
Ole Hansen
forældrenen var {parents were}
Hans Andersen og Ana Olufsd:
Faderenen varen {witnesses were}
Peder Madsen, Anders Nielsen
Johannes Christensen, Ane Lisbet Magrete JesDatter

Research Areas: Thisted, Aarhus, Viborg

Inger Toudal

#2
Claude,

I suppose you mean this one:

Citat fra: Inger Toudal [1655] Dato 23 Jul 2016 - 14:53

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17126836#169959,28534249 - left page, bottom

Udlagt til Barnefader Hans Andersen af
Ødderup Bye, Toftlund Sogn - Faderen
kaldt Anders Træskomand

Haderslev, Nørre Rangstrup,Toftlund (Kongerigsk), Ørderup Bye , , 2, FT-1801, B8776
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       
Anders Hansen    51    Gift    Mand    Inderste, giør Træskoe og Vognkurve og tækker    
Johanna Margretha Hansdatter    40    Gift    Hans Kone    Konen spinder    
Hans Christensen    19    Ugift    Hans Børn    har i Vinter hjulpet faderen at giøre kurve, tiener ellers    
Christen Jensen    17    Ugift    Hans Børn       
Dorthe Christina Andersdatter    13       Hans Børn       
Jens Hansen Andersen    4       Deres Børn       
Woldborg Andersdatter    3       Deres Børn


All information on selected person
Source:    FT-1801
Name:    Anders Hansen   Sex:    M
Age:    51
Position in household:    Mand   Marital status:    Gift
Occupation:    Inderste, giør Træskoe og Vognkurve og tækker
Parish:    Toftlund (Kongerigsk)   District:    Nørre Rangstrup
County:    Haderslev   Place name:    Ørderup Bye
Household-/family no:    2   Marriage no:    2
Source entry no:    B8776   Record no.:    441

All information on selected person
Source:    FT-1801
Name:    Johanna Margretha Hansdatter   Sex:    K
Age:    40
Position in household:    Hans Kone   Marital status:    Gift
Occupation:    Konen spinder
Parish:    Toftlund (Kongerigsk)   District:    Nørre Rangstrup
County:    Haderslev   Place name:    Ørderup Bye
Household-/family no:    2   Marriage no:    1
Source entry no:    B8776   Record no.:    442

It seems that Hans Andersen could be Anders Hansen's son from his 1st marriage.

Best regards,
Inger Toudal
Venlig hilsen
Inger Toudal

Ole Westermann

I agree with Inger.

Haderslev, Nørre Rangstrup,Toftlund (Kongerigsk), Ørderup Bye , , 2, FT-1801, B8776
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       
Anders Hansen    51    Gift    Mand    Inderste, giør Træskoe og Vognkurve og tækker   
Johanna Margretha Hansdatter    40    Gift    Hans Kone    Konen spinder   
Hans Christensen*    19    Ugift    Hans Børn    har i Vinter hjulpet faderen at giøre kurve, tiener ellers   
Christen Jensen**    17    Ugift    Hans Børn       
Dorthe Christina Andersdatter***    13       Hans Børn       
Jens Hansen Andersen****    4       Deres Børn       
Woldborg Andersdatter*****    3       Deres Børn

The baptisms:
* http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=202698&side=97 Hans Christensen (Andersen) born 22.jan.1783
** http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=202698&side=98 Christen Jensen (Andersen) born 11.sep.1785
*** http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=202698&side=99  Dorthe Kristine Juul (Andersdatter) born 30.oct.1788
  Mother above: Woldborg Christensdatter; they are also called HIS children, the last 2 THEIR children

**** http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=202698&side=102 Jens Hansen Juul (Andersen) born 21.feb.1797
***** http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=202698&side=102 Woldborg Juel (Andersdatter) born 11.jun.1798

Ole

Claude Anders Hanson

A special thanks to Inger and Ole for validating my premonition about the Anders Hansen family.  Ole, could you list the attendees at the baptisms of Hans, Christin, Jens, and Woldberg?  My helper here in Boise, Lynn Christensen,  translated Dorothe's attendees for me.  Thanks you, thank you, thank you... for all the help you give me.

Ole Westermann

I read:

Hans Christensen's witnesses in 1783:
Friderick Zerlang, Hans Olufsen, Jens Krag, Anna Marie Niels's, Mette Catrine Trine Jesd(atter)

Christen Jensen's witnesses in 1785:
Morten Jensen, Anders Jensen, Chresten Hansen, Boel Jesd(atter), Karen Tofte's, Kirstine Jespersd(atter)

Jens Hansen Juul's witnesses in 1797:
Peder Sørrensen, Poul Bierre, Anders Nielsen, An Marie Anders's, Ellen Zerlang, Gunder Christensd(atter)

Woldborg Juel's witnesses in 1798:
Susanne Mads's, Aavel Sørrensdatter, Bold Kirstine Christensd(atter), Christen Kier, Jep Mortensen

Ole

Claude Anders Hanson

Thanks Ole..... just what I wanted.  Claude