Looking for nielsen frejlev family

Startet af Kristina Medlock, 17 Apr 2016 - 07:49

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Kristina Medlock

I have tracked my most of my Grandmothers family to 1940 in Toreby Musse Maribo.  But sadly can not find them after the 1941. Jørgen Georg Nielsen Frejlev (1868)  married Ane Marie Hansen (1874)  there children Niels Peder Johannes Nielsen (1897) , Valdamere Karl Albert Nielsen (1903) Grandson Poul arne Nielsen Frejlev born Sept 21, 1927. Just looking for anyone that knows this family or where I can search for death info. I hope I have posted this in the right place and thank you for any ideas you may have. 

from Kristina

Jørgen Frølner

#1
Jørgen Georg Nielsen Frejlev

He is dead in Vordingborg 24 januar 1950

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?epid=17119879#159057,26741174

and here more about Poul Arne Nielsen Frejlev:

http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.scan-balt.denmark.general/9846.1/mb.ashx


Thestrup-Bjørn

#3
Kristina – You wrote:

Valdamere Karl Albert Nielsen (1903)

His correct name is

Valdemar Karl Albert Nielsen Frejlev

- the last name: "Frejlev" was given (from the authorities) on January 2nd, 1906

He was born in the village Grænge in Toreby parish – May 25, 1903

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=157670#157670,26456747

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His confirmation in Toreby church – April 15, 1917 (nr. 21) (still living in Grænge)
Then his father was "Husejer i Grænge" (= House-owner in Grænge).

He got a dispensation from the Bishop January 30, 1917 (= Dispensation fra Biskopppen af 30. Januar 1917)
- I think because he was only 13 years old (normally you have to be at least 14 years old).

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=157675#157675,26457821


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I can see from the former link, that Jørgen Georg Nielsen Frejlev died 1950 in "Oringe", Vordingborg.
He was (a kind of) senile - see the latin in the churchbook to the right "dementia et debilitas senilis".

Oringe is a large hospital for people with psychiatrical illnesses - this hospital is used still.

http://www.krak.dk/f/psykiatrien-i-vordingborg-oringe:66186611/4760-vordingborg






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Thestrup-Bjørn

#5
Niels Peter Johannes (just called Johannes)

died on March 18, 1985

and his wife
Karla on February 27, 1972


See the tombstone in Toreby Cemetery

here - http://www.findengrav.dk/

(use "Søg kirkegård" (on the top) then "Lolland & Falster" then "Toreby" - and then find it under the letter "F" = the surname)

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Their son Jens Anker (in FT1940) born 1931 died 1999 - see here:

http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/s/i/i/Anita-Siig-varde/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0363.html
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Thestrup-Bjørn

#6
Jørgen Georg Nielsen Frejlev and his wife Ane Marie Hansen i Grænge

also had the son:

Aksel Sofus Nielsen (Frejlev)
born on June 29, 1899 in Grænge, Toreby parish

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=157670#157670,26456720

Census 1901

Maribo, Musse, Toreby, Grænge, 4p, 103, FT-1901, D8544
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:

Jørgen Nielsen 18680617 G Husfader Daglejer Majbølle Sogn Maribo Amt
Anna Marie Hansen 18741115 G Husmoder Toreby Sogn Maribo Amt
Niels Peter Johannes Nielsen 18970815 U Barn Toreby Sogn Maribo Amt
Aksel Sofus Nielsen 18990629 U Barn Toreby Sogn Maribo Amt

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In FamilySearch I can see, that he (= Aksel S. Frejlev) arrived Ellis Island, New York (from Copenhagen) on April 29, 1924
   

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Kristina Medlock

Thank you everyone for your help! If anyone has any ideas on how to search for a death record for Poul Arne Nielsen Frejlev  he was confirmed in 1941 in Toreby but then I can not find him. I am excited to let Grandma some of these interesting facts like where the Frejlev name came from :)

Kristina

Thestrup-Bjørn

#8
Just for your information:
Hjelm is a very small island between Lolland and Falster – BUT nobody lives there.
(there is also a small island called Hjelm in the sea Kattegat near Samsø – but the wrong place too)
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As you know
Jørgen Georg Nielsen Frejlev was born on June 17, 1868 in the small village Hjelm in Majbølle parish (Lolland)
He also got the name Frejlev in 1906.

Father: Jens Nielsen, born 1842 (son of farmer Niels Hansen Freile)
Mother: Karen Pedersdatter, born about 1842

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=153551#153551,25583771

They married for the first time in Majbølle church on April 8, 1868
- his father is mentioned (and the bride is serving her father in law)

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=153551#153551,25583845

Census 1860:
Maribo, Musse, Majbølle, Hjelm Skoledistrikt, Hjelm By, En Gaard, 169, FT-1860, D6035
Name , age, ..... titel and at last the place of birth

Niels Hansen 53 Gift Husfader. Gaardmand  Taars Sogn, Maribo Amt  
Ane Sofie Jørgensdatter 38 Gift Hans Kone  Taars Sogn, Maribo Amt – his 2nd wife!  
Jens Nielsen 18 Ugift Deres Barn  Sakskøbing Landsogn (mother = Karen Nielsdatter)
Ane Kirstine Nielsdatter 16 Ugift Deres Barn  Sakskøbing Landsogn (mother = Karen Nielsdatter)
Niels Hendriksen 9 Ugift Deres Barn  Taars Sogn, Maribo Amt – not Niels Hansens child!  
Hans Nielsen 5 Ugift Deres Barn  Majbølle Sogn, Maribo Amt (mother= Joh(anne) Sofie Jørgensdatter  
Maren Hansdatter 20 Ugift Tjenestepige  Radsted Sogn, Maribo Amt  
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The widower Niels Hansen in Hjelm married the maiden Ane Sophie Jørgensdatter in Taars
on August 4th, 1854 in the church of Taars (Tårs) – Taars parish (Lolland)

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=158032#158032,26535522
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Jens Nielsen was born on February 2nd, 1842 in Oreby, Saxkøbing parish (Oreby is a little outside the town of Saxkøbing that's why the parish is called "landsogn" (= "country-parish")

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=155348#155348,25951453

FATHER: farmer (= Gmd.)  Niels Hansen (Freile) – it means that he was NOT christened "Freile" (= Freilev or Frejlev) – son of Hans Jacobsen (see census 1845 in Ourebye = Oreby)
MOTHER: his wife Karen Nielsdatter – DIED on June 2nd, 1854 in Hjelm, Majbølle parish, 48 years old.

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Maribo, Musse, Sakskøbing Landdistrikt, Ourebye, en Gaard, 5, FT-1845, B9399
Navn: Alder: Civilstand: Stilling i husstanden: Erhverv: Fødested:

Niels Hansen 38 Gift  Gaardmand Taars Sog – born primo 1808  
Karen Nielsdatter 39 Gift  hans Kone [Niels Hansen] do [Taars Sog]  
Niels Nielsen 9 -  deres Børn [Niels Hansen og Karen Nielsdatter] her i Sog  
Jens Nielsen 3 -  deres Børn [Niels Hansen og Karen Nielsdatter] do [her i Sog]  
Ane Kirstine Nielsdatter 1 -  deres Børn [Niels Hansen og Karen Nielsdatter] do [her i Sog]  
Hans Jacobsen 65 Enkemand  Huusfaders Fader, der af ham forsørges [Niels Hansen og Karen Nielsdatter] Taars Sog  - he was a widower (= Enkemand) living for free with his son.
Ole Rasmussen 21 Ugift  Tjenestefolk [Niels Hansen og Karen Nielsdatter] her i Sog  
Grethe Mortensdatter 20 Ugift  Tjenestefolk [Niels Hansen og Karen Nielsdatter] Vixnæs Sog  

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Jens Nielsen's father:
Niels Hansen – confirmation 1822 in Taars parish

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=158031#158031,26535257

Christened
February 27, 1808 in the church of Taars parish (= 5. S. p. Epiph. – the 5th Sunday after Epiphany)
NJELS (or Niels) – born in Taars
Father: farmer Hans Jacobsen
Mother: Bente Nielsdatter
(Maren Christiansdatter from Vigsnæs carried the child (= godmother) – witnesses: the farmer Peder Romme and Lars Smed in Taars)

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=158028#158028,26534900


Maribo, Musse, Taars, Taars, En Gaard, 56-F2, FT-1834, B9335

Hans Jacobsen 53 Gift  Inderste og Dagleier – now just a worker without a farm (born about 1781).  
Benthe Nielsdatter 47 Gift  hans Kone (his wife) – born about 1787
Peder Hansen 8 Ugift  deres Søn (a son)  
Johanne Rasmusdatter 5 Ugift  Forsørges af Fattigvæsenet (she is very poor, not their child)

[their son, Niels Hansen is away from home]

- try the lists of Accession and Expunctions  (tilgangsliste og afgangsliste) in the churchbooks to see where he was after the confirmation in 1822.

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I didn't find why the family later got the name Frejlev (Freile or Freilev)

- maybe Niels Hansen (born 1808 and called Freile in 1842) was a soldier (or served a farmer)
in the village Frejlev in Kettinge parish, Musse herred (Lolland, close to the town Nysted and near Taars parish)
(It is hard to believe, if the name is from the village Frejlev in Frejlev parish, Hornum herred,  Aalborg amt – in Jutland)

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I hope you find the reason of the surname Frejlev.

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Please notice.

You are not allowed to show data in this open Forum about P. A. N. Frejlev (born 1927) - he might be alive.
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Kristina Medlock

About Poul we did an address search for him through Høje-Taastrup Kommune
Bygaden 22630 Taastrup....and I was told he was dead but they didn't say where :( Thank you for all the work you all have done.  I will print it all and send to grandmother :)

Thestrup-Bjørn

There is something wrong with the address.

You wrote:

Bygaden 22630 Taastrup


The Postal code (postnummer) for Tåstrup is just 2630 (in Denmark only 4 numbers in all postal codes).

So is the right address

Bygaden 2
2630 Tåstrup

or what?


Do you know the year of his death?

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Helmer Christiansen

The address Bygaden 2 is the address of Høje Taastrup's city hall
Helmer Christiansen
2000 F

Kristina Medlock

Sorry yes I must of added an extra 2 by mistake, they didn't tell me the year.  How do I attach a pdf file. I can show you.

Thestrup-Bjørn

#13
To attach a file

– see "You have some extra options when you write a message. Click on Øvrige funktioner (further options] and these posts appear......"

- and see "Vedhæft: Vælg arkiv: Attach: Select file. Clicking Vælg arkiv allows you to navigate to the file you want to attach. Allowed file-types: doc, gif, jpg, mpg. pdf, png, txt, zip, docx. You may attach several files, but the size is limited to 128 KB per file"

(Find the file to attach in your own computer)

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Kristina Medlock

Here is the email a friend of mine received back about Poul.

[vedhæfting slettet af admin]

Thestrup-Bjørn

It is very strange that they did not tell the date of his death - and his last known address.

Normally you get informations of both from other danish city-halls.


Try to ask them again
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Kristina Medlock

Okay I will try it again thank you :)

Kristina Medlock

Well finally found out Poul's death date July 23, 1987 in Voldboligerne
København.  Now I will try to find out more about his life.  Thank you everyone.

Thestrup-Bjørn

Voldboligerne is on Christianshavn (between Copenhagen City and the Island Amager)

- and the parish is Vor Frelser
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Kristina Medlock

Thank you clarifying that for me :)