Müller, Ludvig Nicolai

Startet af Dave Rimmer, 03 Jun 2016 - 11:11

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Dave Rimmer

I am looking for information on Ludvig Nicolai Müller who I believe was born on 20 May 1852 in Sønder Lygum, Slesvig.  He married Dorthea Jensen (18 Jul 1860 - ) in Odense on 27 October 1882 and was in the cavalry.

I know a great deal about one of his sons – Otto Müller (17 August 1886 - 1 August 1962) – but would like to find out about Ludvig's parents and other children.

I am willing to pay for focused research.
Thanks
Dave Rimmer
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Jørgen Frølner

#1
Here is a little information from Odense with names of his children:

http://www.odensedatabasen.dk/kilde/person/18529999063


Gitte Johansen

Ribe, Skast, Bryndum, Bryndum, Bryndum Præstegaaard, 1 F1, FT-1860, C5679
Navn:    Alder:    Civilstand:    Stilling i husstanden:    Erhverv:    Fødested:
Caspar Christophersen Müller   46   Gift   Sognepræst og Huusfader      Fohl Haderslev Amt
Best man at Marriage
Hedevig Margretha Müller født Hermann   32   Gift   hans Hustru      Rødby Maribo Amt
Diderik Müller   9   Ugift   deres Børn      Rødby Maribo Amt
Maria Margrethe Müller   7   Ugift   deres Børn      Rødby Maribo Amt
Christian Müller   5   Ugift   deres Børn      her i Sognet
Anna Kirstine Müller   2   Ugift   deres Børn      Her i Sognet
Ludvig Michal Müller   8   Ugift   Huusfaderens Brodersøn. der af ham forsørges      S. Lygum Tønder Amt This is Ludvig Nicolai
Anna Hansine Camilla Hermann   19   Ugift   Huusmoderens Søster      Rødby Maribo Amt
Thora Jensine Bruun   35   Ugift   Jomfru      Nykjøbing paa Falster
Niels Jensen Friis   30   Ugift   Tjenestefolk      V. Nebel Sogn Ribe Amt
Karen Kirstine Olesen   23   Ugift   Tjenestefolk      Her i Sognet
Petrea Christine Pedersen   18   Ugift   Tjenestefolk      Her i Sognet

http://www.onegreatworld.com/genealogy/Brother/f4191.html
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Gitte Johansen 8520 Lystrup

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Gitte Johansen

Odense, Odense, Odense Købstad, Odense Kjøbstad, Overgade 39, ??, 1, FT-1860, B0289
Navn:    Alder:    Civilstand:    Stilling i husstanden:    Erhverv:    Fødested:
Poul Hannibal Kragh   40   Gift   overlærer ved Odense Kathedralskole, huusfader      Seestrand, Kolding, Ribe Amt
Nielsine Elisa Cathinka født Brohm   35   Gift   hans kone      Odense
Albert Christian Kragh Müller   6   Ugift   deres pleiesøn      Sønder Lygum sogn ved Tønder
Peter Casper Wessel Brown   15   Ugift   skolediscipel, søn af sognepræst Brown i Sønder Høirup, Svendborg Amt      Helnæs sogn, Odense Amt
Niels Wilhelm Møller   14   Ugift   skolediscipel, søn af afdøde proprietair Møller til Ørritslevgaard i Odense Amt      Otterup sogn, Odense Amt
Gjertrud Marie Knudsen   24   Ugift   tjenestepige      Wissenberg sogn, Odense Amt
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Inger Toudal


Ludvig Nicolai's marriage 1882: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17138175#180634,30657859

In the marriage record the best man is said to be from Horsens:

Skanderborg, Nim, Horsens Købstad, Horsens Købstad, Havnealleen 8, Forhuset, 1 ste Sal, matrikkelnummer 831, 2, FT-1880
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Casper Christoffer Mûller    65    Gift    Husfader. ??       Fohl i Tørring ??
Hedevig Margrethe født Hansen    51    Gift    Hans Hustru       Rødby
Anna Kirstine Mûller    21    Ugift    Deres Datter       ?? Sogn, Skads??
Frederik Imanuel Mûller    12    Ugift    Deres Søn. ??       ?? Sogn, Skads??
Poul Mûller    10    Ugift    Deres Søn. ??       ?? Sogn, Skads??
Marie Caroline Petersen    18    Ugift    Tjenestepige       Horsens



At the baptism of Ludvig Nicolai's daughter Johanne in 1883, her father's brother Brygger Kragh Müller is witness:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17138167#180582,30642613

Ludvig Nicolai's brother as a foster child in Odense:

Odense, Odense, Odense Købstad, Odense Kjøbstad, Overgade 39, ??, 1, FT-1860, B0289
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Poul Hannibal Kragh    40    Gift    overlærer ved Odense Kathedralskole, huusfader       Seestrand, Kolding, Ribe Amt
Nielsine Elisa Cathinka født Brohm    35    Gift    hans kone       Odense
Albert Christian Kragh Müller    6    Ugift    deres pleiesøn       Sønder Lygum sogn ved Tønder
- - -
Gjertrud Marie Knudsen    24    Ugift    tjenestepige       Wissenberg sogn, Odense Amt

In the 1870 census he is listed as an adopted child:

Odense, Odense, Odense Købstad, Klingenberg, 32, Forhus, 1403, FT-1870, D4595
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Poul Hannibal Kragh    49    Gift    Husfader    Overlærer    Seest, Ribe Amt
Elise Kirstine Cathinka Kragh    44    Gift    Husmoder       Odense
Albert Christian Kragh-Müller    15    Ugift    Adoptiv Barn       Sønder Løgum, Tønder, Jylland
Christiane Frederikke Petersen    25    Ugift    Tjenestetyende       Søften, Aahus Amt

Here with his family in the 1890 census:

Odense, Odense, Odense Købstad, Odense Kjøbstad, Nørregade 51, forhus 2 sal, 1 F2, FT-1890, B0315
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Albert Christian Kragh-Müller    35    Gift    husfader    brygmester    S. Løgum, Slesvig
Mariane Marie Sofie Kragh-Müller født Thaning    29    Gift    husmoder       Kjøbenhavn
Eleba Kragh-Müller    6    Ugift    barn       Ringsted
Poul Kragh-Müller    5    Ugift    barn       do [Ringsted]
Hanne Mortensen    23    Ugift    medhjælpende i huset       Skovballe, Svendborg Amt

Albert Christian: http://www.odensedatabasen.dk/kilde/person/18549999091

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Inger Toudal
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Gitte Johansen

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Gitte Johansen 8520 Lystrup

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Gitte Johansen

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Inger Toudal


Ludvig Nicolai's and Albert Christian's father Christian Frederik Müller was married to Catharina Maria Carstens
22 Jul. 1851 in Herslev church:

http://ddd.dda.dk/nygaard/visning_billed.asp?id=264958&sort=e

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123704#163905,27523678

This must be the bride:

Vejle, Brusk, Herslev, Herslef Bye, Præstegaard, 1, FT-1850, D2782
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Jørgen Gad    51    Gift       Konsistorialraad og Sognepræst    Røe Præstegd. paa Bornholm
Frederike Gad    50    Gift       Hans Kone    Roskilde
Sine Sophie Gad    17    Ugift       Deres Datter    Her i Sognet
Christiane Gad    47    Ugift       Huusjomfru    Røe Præstegd. paa Bornholm
Cathrine M. Carstensen    25    Ugift       Lærerinde    Flensborg
- - -

- and this could be her and her parents:

Sydslesvig, , Flensburg Sankt Maria, Flensburg Sankt Maria 2ter District, Grosse Strasse Nr. 41, 42 F1, FT-1845, C5605
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Georg Fried. Carstens    51    Verheir.       Schumachermeister    Flensburg
Ingeborg Mrg. Carstens    47    Verheir.       seine Frau    Flensburg
Catharina Maria Carstens    19    Unverheir.       deren Kinder    Flensburg
Louise Botilde Carstens    14    Unverheir.       deren Kinder    Flensburg
Georg Friedr. Carstens    4    Unverheir.       deren Kinder    Flensburg
- - -

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Inger Toudal
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Lise Østerberg Bahr

Hi.


Carstens relations in Flensburg, (now since 1920 Gernamy) =Adelby,  (my ovn fam.relations) possible some informations here:
look up at Helmut Martensen´s web. www.adelby.com


Lise Østerberg Bahr

Lise Østerberg Bahr

Hi again.

P.s. My family too, lived in Flensburg, at Grosse Strasse (numbers - se the streets (and families) in Helmut Martensens web.side = adelby.com

Kind regards
Lise Oesterberg Bahr

Inger Toudal


Ludvig Nicolai moved to Copenhagen:

http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=3417237&searchname=polit_adv

- according to the 1906 and 1911 censuses another son, Ernst, was born 29 Mar. 1890 at Frederiksberg, Copenhagen:

1906: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=12945#12945,427621

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=12945#12945,427622

1911: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=65394#65394,12593208

Johanne b. 1883:
http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=2257020&searchname=polit_adv

Inger b. 1884:
http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=2256942&searchname=polit_adv

Otto b. 1886:
http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=2257416&searchname=polit_adv

http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=44584&searchname=polit_adv

Ernst b. 1890:
http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=2256658&searchname=polit_adv

His baptism: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17114817#149653,24760682

The Müller family in the 1890 census Frederiksberg:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=60258#60258,12251893

One of the witnesses at Ernst's baptism was Prof. Müller, Ludvig Nicolai's uncle Niels Viborg Müller:

1890 census: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=60416#60416,12263333

http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=2257367&searchname=polit_adv

The witness Miss Carstens could be Ludvig Nicolai's aunt:

1890 census: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=60259#60259,12251962

http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=1931608&searchname=polit_adv

http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=3311921&searchname=polit_adv

She died 13 Jul. 1919, unfortunately no info about parents:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17117409#154002,25679723

Best regards,
Inger Toudal
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Inger Toudal

#12

The probate after Augusta Emilie Johanne Carstens gives the forllowing information:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=14809180#51120,37875094

- she is the aunt of Ludvig Nicolai Müller and Albert Christian Kragh-Müller

- their mother Cathrine Müller née Carstens and the deceased had no other siblings (if this is correct, it seems I found the wrong family in the 1845 census for Flensburg)

- Ludvig and Albert had a sister Johanne Kirstine Müller b. 15 Apr. 1856, who died unmarried June 1878 in Copenhagen

København, København (Staden), Klædebo Kvarter, Store Kannikestræde 34a/13, Forhuset, 2. Sal, 220, FT-1860, D6863
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Augusta Eleonora Petersen f. Grundtvig    51    Enke    Enke-Provstinde, Husmoder       Henne, Ribe Amt
Theodor Christian Petersen    25    Ugift    hendes Barn, Cand. phil.       Holstebro
Sophie Jacobine Mathilde Petersen    23    Ugift    hendes Barn       Holstebro
Johanne Kirstine Møller    4    Ugift    hendes Plejedatter       Sønder-Lygum, Tønder Amt
Augusta Emilie Johanne Carstens    31    Ugift    Lærerinde       Flensborg

Hans Arnts    21    Ugift    Assistent i Privatbanken       Holstenborg, Grønland
Margrethe Kirstine Mogensen    23    Ugift    Tjenestepige       Kjøbenhavn

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=10131#10131,242771

Maybe Augusta Emilie Johanne is here:

Sydslesvig, , Flensburg Sankt Maria, Flensburg Sankt Maria 16ter District, Nordermarkt No. 464, 462 F4, FT-1845, C5605
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place
Marcus Lorenzen    56    Verheir.       Schiffsmakler    Tonder Amt
Maria Lorenzen    54    Verheir.       seine Frau    Flensburg
Ingeborg D. Lorenzen    15    Unverheir.       seine Tochter    Flensburg
Auguste C. J. Carstens    16    Unverheir.       Mündel. und Pflegetochter    Flensburg
Elisabeth Brock    25    Unverheir.       Dienstmagd    Warde

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Inger Toudal
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Inger Toudal


The probate after Johanne Kirstine Müller, who died June 1878, provides no further information:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=14809180#51070,37834639

- both her parents are dead, and her only siblings are L. N. Müller and A. C. Kragh-Müller.

Best regards,
Inger Toudal
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