Need birth record and/or information for Anna Nielsdatter and Hans Anderson

[Claude Anders Hanson]

Need to know more about Anna Nielsdatter of Bierre, Janderup, Ribe and Hans Anderson from Odderup, Toftlund, Haderslav.  They are the parents of my gggrandfather Anders Hansen.  I do not know where to search for them.  I have neither their ages nor their parents names.  I spent 30 years trying to find my ggrandfather  whose marriage and divorce record in Kansas, USA named him Nelson Hanson.  After three decades of searching we finally found his baptism record in Tonder County, Denmark  as Niels Hansen!  If it takes another 30 years to find Anna and Hans, I will be 112 years old!!   I'd appreciate suggestions to help me search!!   Thanks so much.

1. https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=169958#169958,28534168
5. S(ame) day and date (20.Feb.1803)
Anna Nielsdatters illegitimate sons baptism confirmed in Bierre ANDERS
as putative father Hans Andersen from Odderup Bye, Toftlund parish
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2.  Confirmation: 20de April 1817
Name: Anders Hansen Møllebjerregaard
Parents: Gaardmand Henrik Fifter? og Ane Kristens? D i Møllebjerregaard
Born: 20de February 1803
Evaluation: Ligeledes (likewise, i.e. meget god (very good))
Vaccinated: 11de August 1811 af samme (same, i.e. Districts Chirurg Hr. Hansen? i Ribe)
Index: do [1818], do [No] 124
3. Anders in 1828 went to Døstrup, where in 1831 got married to Karen Hansdatter from Janderup
comment! 
Henrik Filter and Ane Kristens are not his parents.  Apparently he is living with them and working on their farm.

[Anne Ravnskjær]

I need to know more. Niels Hansen baptism record in Tonder County. But which parish? And time?

regards
Anne R

[Anne Ravnskjær]

Anders Hansen did not live with Henrik Filter for very long:

http://ddd.dda.dk/nygaard/visning_billed.asp?id=93675&sort=e

Anne R

[Claude Anders Hanson]

My ggrandfather Niels Hanson was born in Dostrup parish, the eighth child of Anders Hansen and Karen Hansdatter on May 16th, 1848.  He was christened on July 23rd at the church.  I now have data on all nine children and quite a lot on his father Anders.  What I'm anxious to find out is who Anders' mother Anna Neilsdatter's parents were and information about  his father Hans Anderson.  Thanks so much for trying to help me.

[Claude Anders Hanson]

I worked for several hours yesterday searching for Anna Nielsdatter in Janderup parish where illegitmate son Anders was born in 1803.  Could someone please transcribe and translate this item in the Churchbook?  Also, look at the 1801 census data (Janderup, page 11) that reveals a possible Anna Nielsdatter that may have been his mother. 

http://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1201/churchbook/source142032/opslag15784031

http://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid1680000

[Anne Ravnskjær]

 Janderup Parish Church book:

1814:
Day of dead April 16. Funeral April 22. Anna Nielsdatter. Farmer Niels Nielsen Rilors (or Ribers) in Janderup. Age 11 month.

Maybe it is an older sister??????????


Janderup parish census. This Anna Nielsdatter are more realistic.


Anne R

[Anne Ravnskjær]

Could this be your ancestors?

all persons in the house

Tønder, Tønder, Højer og Lø, Døstrup (Kongerigsk), Døstrup Sogn, Døstrup Bye, Sognets Fattighuus paa Vinum Mark, 45, FT-1834, C7553
[Tonder, Tonder, Hojer and Lo, Dostrup (kingdom) Dostrup parish, Dostrup city, parish poorhouse on Vinum field, 45, FT-1834, C7553]


Navn: Alder: Civilstand: Stilling i husstanden: Erhverv: Fødested:

Anders Hansen 32 Gift  Forstander i Huset  [Head of the poorhouse]
Karen Hansdatter 29 Gift  Hans Kone [his wife]
Johanne Marie Andersdatter 2 -  Deres Børn  
Anna Kjerstine Andersdatter 1 -  Deres Børn  
Margrethe Pedersdatter 45 Enke  Knipler  
Peder Andersen Jørgensen 17 -  Hendes Børn  
Jens Peter Jørgensen 15 -  Hendes Børn  
Laust Jørgensen 10 -  Hendes Børn  
Bendix Jørgensen 7 -  Hendes Børn  
Anna Kristiansdatter 72 Enke  Knipler  
Morten Hansen 54 Gift  Snoer Tækkereb  
Johanne Dorothea Olsen 43 Gift  Hans Kone, Spinder  
Gunder Marie Mortensdatter 15 -  Deres Børn  
Oline Margrethe Mortensdatter 13 -  Deres Børn  
Ellen Marie Kristiane Mortensdatter 11 -  Deres Børn  
Thomas Bine Mortensdatter !! 6 -  Deres Børn  
Barbara Aguste Mortensdatter 4 -  Deres Børn  
Kathrine Truelsdatter 46 Enke  Spinder  
Hans Nielsen Hermansen 61 Gift  Binder ??  
Anna Kathrine Olesdatter 50 Gift  Hans Kone, Spinder  
Gunder Jakobsdatter 68?? Ugift  Knipler  
Inger Jensdatter 75 Ugift  Spinder  
Maren Andreasdatter 40 Enke  Spinder  
Jakob Hansen 14 -  Hendes Børn  
Andreas Hansen 12 -  Hendes Børn  
Ingeborg Hansdatter 8 -  Hendes Børn  
Anna Marie Poulsdatter Sligsgaard 32 Gift  Knipler, Manden tjener i Døstrup  
Helene Marie Kristensdatter Møller 8 -  Deres Børn  
Niels Kristensen Møller 6 -  Deres Børn  
Peder Hansen Møller 3 -  Deres Børn  
Niels Kristensen 73 Gift  Reebslager  
Marikke Nicolaisdatter 77 Gift  Hans Kone, Knipler  
Kathrine Marie Lorentzen 39 Enke  Knipler  
Karen Svendsdatter 57 Ugift  Knipler  
Stine Svendsdatter 54 Ugift  Ligesaa, p.t. Sængeliggende ( Knipler)  
Lovise Jakobsdatter 38 Ugift  Gaaer tilhaande i Huusholdningen  
Anna Nisdatter 12 -  Hendes Børn  
Jeppe Jensen 9 -  Hendes Børn  
Lorentz Matthiesen 17 -  Gaaer til Confirmation  
Frederik Samuelsen 17 -    
Esther Marie Andersdatter 13 -  


Or: http://www.ddd.dda.dk/asp/vishusstand.asp   The link is not working, sorry.


Med venlig hilsen
Anne R

[Lise Østerberg Bahr]

Hi there.

Maby you can get some infos too, at this web from Flensburg, Helmuth Martensen. www.adelby.com - maby they also had connections there.


Kind Regard
Lise Østerberg Bahr

[Inger Toudal]

Please refer to https://www.slaegtogdata.dk/forum/index.php/topic,111580.0.html

Anders Hansen was born in Vejrup parish:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17126836#169958,28534168 - left page, No 5

The church book is common for Sønder Gørding and Vejrup parishes:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17126836#169958,28534120

His baptism is also recorded here:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17126836#169959,28534249 - left page, bottom

This church book is also common for Sønder Gørding and Vejrup parishes:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17126836#169959,28534209

One of the witnesses at Anders' baptism is Hans Filter:

Ribe, Gørding, Vejrup, Tuugthuset for Skads herred og Malt herred, , 1. fam, FT-1801, B9153
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       
Hans Filter    56    Gift    Mand    Fangefoged og Arrestforvarer    
Margrethe Poulsdatter    58    Gift    hans Kone

At the time of his confimation, Anders Hansen was staying with Henrik Filter:

Ribe, Gørding, Vejrup, Nør. Vejrup, , 15. fam, FT-1801, B9153
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:
Hendrik Filter    49    Gift    Huusbonde    Bonde og Gaardbeboer    
Anna Eriksdatter    43    Gift    hans Kone       
Hermann Hendriksen    11    Ugift    Deres Børn       
Anders Hendriksen    8    Ugift    Deres Børn

Tønder, Tønder, Højer og Lø, Døstrup (Kongerigsk), Døstrup Bye, et Huus, 35, FT-1840, C8049
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:
Anders Hansen    37    Gift       Huusmand og Reebslager    
Karen Hansen    35    Gift       hans Kone    
Hanne M. Andersdatter    9    Ugift       deres Børn    
Anne K. Andersdatter    7    Ugift       deres Børn    
Ingeborg C. Andersdatter    5    Ugift       deres Børn    
Anne M. Andersdatter    2    Ugift       deres Børn    
Andreas Frandsen    25    Ugift       Uhrmager, betaler Kost

Tønder, Tønder, Højer og Lø, Døstrup, paa Vinum Mark, 24, et Huus, 68, FT-1850, C7582
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Anders Hansen    47    Gift       Dagleier, Indsidder, Huusfader    Veirup S., Ribe Amt
Karen Hansen    45    Gift       hans Kone    Janderup, Ribe Amt
Anne M. Hansen    12    Ugift       deres Børn    Heri Sognet
Caroline Hansen    9    Ugift       deres Børn    Hrtd. Slesv.
Hans Hansen    8    Ugift       deres Børn    Hrtd. Slesv.
Nis Christian Hansen    5    Ugift       deres Børn    Hrtd. Slesv.
Niels Hansen    2    Ugift       deres Børn    Heri Sognet

Tønder, Tønder, Højer og Lø, Døstrup (Slesvigsk), Vinum, 26, et hus, 147, FT-1855, C9608
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Anders Hansen    52    Gift    Indsidder       Veirup Sogn, Ribe Amt*
Karen Hansen    50    Gift    Hans kone       Janderup Sogn, Ribe Amt
Caroline A. Hansen    14    Ugift    Deres børn       Slesvig
Hans A. Hansen    13    Ugift    Deres børn       Slesvig
Niels Hansen    7    Ugift    Deres børn       Døstrup Sogn, Ribe Amt
Peder Hansen    4    Ugift    Deres børn       Døstrup Sogn, Ribe Amt
* Kommentar: "Tækker, Slagter, Daglejer"

Tønder, Tønder, Højer og Lø, Døstrup (Kongerigsk), ??, Et Huus, 96, FT-1860, D6641
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Anders Hansen    60    Gift    Dagleier. Huusfader       Veirup i Ribe Amt
Karen født Hansdatter    55    Gift    hans Kone       Janderup Sogn Ribe Amt
Niels Hansen    12    Ugift    deres Børn       Her i Sognet
Peder Hansen    9    Ugift    deres Børn       Her i Sognet

Map of Ribe county: http://www.dis-danmark.dk/kort/kortribe.htm

Why search for Anders' mother in Janderup parish?

Best regards,
Inger Toudal

[Inger Toudal]

Hans Andersen died 5. Apr. 1868:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17216228#201268,38120738 - No 9

He is recorded as having died at the age of 68. There is a reference 1831, No 42, which must refer
to his marriage in 1831.

At his marriage, the ref. number 42 is in 4th column on the right page, bottom:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17216228#201265,38120265 - No 4

This refers to the index (J) for the year 1831:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17216228#201265,38120368 - No 42

The index tells us, that Anders Hansen was born in Vejrup, married 1831 (No 4), arrived to the parish
in 1828, left the parish in 1842 (No 6), and died 1868 (No 9).

He's recorded as having been 25 years old upon his arrival in 1828:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17216228#201265,38120275 - No 16

Unfortunately, his age is not recorded at the marriage, but in 1842, he is recorded as having been 39 years old:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17216228#201269,38120879 - No 6

It's also worth noticing that he suddenly gets a lot older between the 1855 census and the 1860 census!

In my opinion, the age recorded at his death must be wrong.

As for finding Anders' mother and father, I think it's like finding a needle in a haystack.....

Best regards,
Inger

[Inger Toudal]

Hans Andersen died 5. Apr. 1868:

Typo - should of course be Anders Hansen.

[Claude Anders Hanson]

Thanks to all who have responded.  I goofed up by saying he was born in Janderup....when I KNOW he was born in Vejrup.  Sorry.