Searching for Johannes (John) Jakobsen (Jacobsen)

[Ann Johnk]

I am searching for my great uncle John Jakobsen. Born in Vraa on July 12, 1885 to Mikkel Peder Jakobsen and Ane Marie Nielsen and was a twin to Thomas. I have records in Vraa parish, Borglum, Hjorring county. There were 14 children of Mikkel Peder Jakobsen. 12 of those children came to the US. I am looking for John, whom I believe was one of the children who stayed in Denmark. I am also looking for more information for a brother, Harold. I think they had different mothers. Harold's mother was Marie Catherine Petersen.Can you help with any information?

Thankful for any help,
Ann Johnk

[Inger Toudal]

Some censuses for a start:

Hjørring, Børglum, Vraa, Nørrevraa, et Hus, 34 [ 5 ], FT-1880, C7028
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Niels Jensen    60    Gift    Husfader       Børglum Sogn
Karen Marie Larsdatter    61    Gift    Husmoder       St. Hans Sogn
Mikkel Peter Jacobsen    33    Gift    Svigersøn       Skanderborg
Ane Marie Nielsen    23    Gift    Datter       Vraa Sogn
Mikael Peter Jacobsen    2    Ugift    Barn       Skanderborg
Ane Jacobsen    2    Ugift    Barn       Vraa Sogn
Niels Peter Jacobsen    under 1 Aar    Ugift    Barn       Vraa Sogn

Hjørring, Børglum, Vraa, Nørre Vraa Hede og Borup Hede, , 144(13), FT-1890, D2156
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Niels Jensen    69    Gift    Husfader    Husmand    Børglum Sogn Hjørring Amt
Karen Marie Larsdatter    71    Gift    Husmoder    Medhjælper    St. Hans Sogn Hjørring Amt
Mikkel Peter Jacobsen    42    Gift    Husfader    Børstenbinder, Under Fattigforsørgelse    Hylke Sogn Aarhus Amt
Ane Marie Nielsen    33    Gift    Husmoder    Medhjælper, Under Fattigforsørgelse    Vraa Sogn Hjørring Amt
Mikael Peter Jacobsen    12    Ugift    Barn    Ingen    Skanderborg Aarhus Amt
Anne Jacobsen    12    Ugift    Barn    Ingen    Vraa Sogn Hjørring Amt
Niels Peter Jacobsen    10    Ugift    Barn    Ingen    Vraa Sogn Hjørring Amt
Jacob Peter Jacobsen    8    Ugift    Barn    Ingen    Vraa Sogn Hjørring Amt
Katrine Marie Jacobsen    7    Ugift    Barn    Ingen    Vraa Sogn Hjørring Amt
Johannes Jacobsen    4    Ugift    Barn    Ingen    Vraa Sogn Hjørring Amt
Thomas Jacobsen    4    Ugift    Barn    Ingen    Vraa Sogn Hjørring Amt
Vilhelm Jacobsen    1    Ugift    Barn    Ingen    Vraa Sogn Hjørring Amt

Hjørring, Børglum, Vraa, Nørre Vraa Hede, 4c, 96, FT-1901, C6021
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Mikkel Peter Jakobsen    2/5-1847    Gift    Husfader    Børstenbinder    Hylke Skanderborg
Ane Marie Nielsen    14/10-1857    Gift    Husmoder    alm. Husgjerning    Vraa S. Hj. A.
Vilhelm Jakobsen    4/4-1888    Ugift    Barn       V. S. H. A.
Valdemar Jakobsen    5/7-1890    Ugift    Barn       V. S. H. A.
Sofie Jakobsen    27/10-1872    Ugift    Barn       V. S. H. A.
Elvine Jakobsen    20/5-1895    Ugift    Barn       V. S. H. A.
Avgusta Jakobsen    3/8-1895??    Ugift    Barn       V. S. H. A.

Do you have any info when and/or where Harold was born?

Best regards,
Inger Toudal

[Paul Løndahl-Smidt]

Sofie Jakobsen was born in Vraa on 24 Oct 1892 and here she is in København  http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=1375698&searchname=polit_simple

Sincerely,
Paul

[Paul Løndahl-Smidt]

Here is the family in the 1911 census.   https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=64676#64676,12547910

Paul

[Paul Løndahl-Smidt]

Here they are in the 1916 census.    https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=71716#71716,13000057

Paul

[Inger Toudal]

Augusta Dusine Jacobsen was born 3 Aug. 1898:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128340#172850,29021051 - No 16

The names Dusinus (male), and Dusine (female) were used for the 12th child in the family.

After Augusta there's Viggo, b. 1901, mentioned in the 1911 census. Who was the 14th child - Harold?

Two sisters emigrating?

Navn:    Jakobsen, Anna   Stilling:    Frøken
Alder:    24   Bestemmelsessted:    Avoca, Ia.
Kontrakt nr.:    265500   Forevisningsdato:    17-05-1902
Fødested:    ?   Fødesogn:    ?
Sidste oph.sogn:    Vrå   Sidste oph. amt:    Hjørring
Sidste oph.sted:    Nørre Vraa   Bestemmelses land:    USA
Bestemmelses by:    Avoca   Bestemmelses stat:    Iowa
Skibsnavn:    Indirekte
IDkode:    I0102J5505

Navn:    Jakobsen, Katrine   Stilling:    Frøken
Alder:    21   Bestemmelsessted:    Naco
Kontrakt nr.:    232300   Forevisningsdato:    30-04-1904
Fødested:    Vraa   Fødesogn:    Vrå
Sidste oph.sogn:    Vrå   Sidste oph. amt:    Hjørring
Sidste oph.sted:    Vraa   Bestemmelses land:    USA
Bestemmelses by:    Naco   Bestemmelses stat:    Arizona
Skibsnavn:    Indirekte
IDkode:    I0304J5211

Source: http://www.udvandrerarkivet.dk/udvandrerprotokollerne/

Best regards,
Inger

[Inger Toudal]

Michael Peter Jacobsen, who moved to Vraa with his father, was born out of wedlock 13 Feb. 1877 in Skanderborg:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17126312#168998,28379094 - No 4

- his mother is Marie Cathrine Petersen.

She's also the mother of Harald Peter Jacobsen born 2 Dec. 1874 in Skanderborg:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17126312#168998,28379086 - No 37

Anna Jakobsen was born 3 Jan. 1878 in Vraa:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128340#172847,29020812 - No 1

Best regards,
Inger

[Inger Toudal]

Harald Peter in foster care:

Skanderborg, Voer, Ørridslev, Ørridslev By, Ørridslev Sogn, samme hus, 9, FT-1880, C5112
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Peter Frederiksen    53    Gift    Husfader, Daglejer.       Østbirk S. Skanderborg Amt
Johanne Hansen    50    Gift    Hans Hustru       Odder S. Aarhus Amt
Maren Pedersen    10    Ugift    Deres Børn       Astrup S. Aarhus Amt
Harald Peder Jacobsen    5    Ugift    Deres Børn       Skanderborg

- with his maternal grandparents, I believe (one of the witnesses at his baptism was Peter Frederiksen):

Skanderborg, Voer, Ovsted, Riis Bye, Et Huus, 3 F2, FT-1855, D4087
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Peder Frederiksen    28    Gift    Dagleier, Huusfader       Østbirk S., Skdb. A.
Johanne Hansdatter    25    Gift    Hans Kone       Astrup S., Aarh: A.
Marie Cathrine Pedersdatter    3    Ugift    deres Barn       Hylke S., Skdb. A.

At the age of 15, he's a farmhand:

Skanderborg, Voer, Vedslet, Vedslet, , 8, FT-1890, B7912
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Bergitter Pedersen    55 (3/9)    Gift    Husmoder       Sødrup
Ane Laursen    12 (6/12)       Barn       Gjesing
Mette Jørgensen    45 (8/6)    Gift    Husmoder       Sondrup
Jørgen Rasmussen    10 (9/2)    Ugift    Barn       Vedslet
Ingeborg Karoline Rasmussen    8 (27/11)    Ugift    Barn       Vedslet
Marius Rasmussen    6 (12/4)    Ugift    Barn       Vedslet
Niels Hansen    23    Ugift    Tjenestekarl       Tolstrup
Harald Peter Jakobsen    15    Ugift    Tjenestekarl       Skanderborg
Mogensine Sørensen    15    Ugift    Tjenestepige       Vedslet
Søren Johansen    32    Ugift    Møllersvend       Underup

- there seems to be something wrong with the indexing of this census. The original is here:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=59133#59133,12168286

Best regards,
Inger

[Inger Toudal]

After 1890, it's difficult to find people with the help of censuses, as many of the newer censuses are not
yet transcribed and indexed at http://ddd.dda.dk/dddform_uk.asp

Please refer to http://www.dis-danmark.dk/kipkort/fronta-e.php

Johannes' twin brother Thomas is here:

Hjørring, Børglum, Sejlstrup, Smidstrup, 1, 27, FT-1901, D8506
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Otto Carl Walther    18630823    G    Gaardmand    Gaardmand    Fyen
Joachimine Walther    18541017    G    Husmoder       Do [Fyen]
Christian Walther    18870503    U    Barn       Viborg
Margrethe Walther    18890713    U    Barn       Do [Viborg]
Ingeborg Walther    18910514    U    Barn       Smidstrup
Clara Christensen    18731126    U    -    Lærerinde    Fredrikshavn
Niels Kristian Kristensen    18750705    U    Tyende    Landbruget    Vejby
Thomas Jakobsen    18850612    U    Do [Tyende]    Do [Landbruget]    Vraa
Hans Kristiansen    18410708    G    Do [Tyende]    Do [Landbruget]    Mosbjerg
Niels Kristian Jensen    18700204    G    Do [Tyende]    Do [Landbruget]    Hjørring
Alfred Jensen    18860219    U    Do [Tyende]    Do [Landbruget]    Sejlstrup
Kristian Ulrik Vilhelm Flensborg    18821021    U    Do [Tyende]    Do [Landbruget]    København
Martin Marinus Nielsen    18771124    U    Do [Tyende]    Do [Landbruget]    Børglum
Anders Jørgen Nielsen    18810526    U    Do [Tyende]    Do [Landbruget]    Sejlstrup
Hans Petersen    18861024    U    Do [Tyende]    Do [Landbruget]    Børglum
Marie Sørensen    18680809    U    Do [Tyende]    Husjomfru    Fjellerup
Anna Ottesen    18761214    U    Do [Tyende]    Do [Husjomfru]    Rakkeby
Karoline Jensen    18820427    U    Do [Tyende]    Do [Husjomfru]    Børglum
Else Walther    18840618    U    Barn       Viborg
Julie Walther    18861107    U    Do [Barn]       Do [Viborg]  

Johannes may be in a parish in Hjørring county not yet transcribed and indexed.

In order to find Johannes and Harald Peter in the military levying rolls, you have to know their residence
in the year they turned 18, or at a later stage.

Best regards,
Inger

[Inger Toudal]

In order to find Johannes and Harald Peter in the military levying rolls, you have to know their residence
in the year they turned 18, or at a later stage.

residence - should be place of residence (domicile), of course.

Best regards,
Inger

[Ellen Steen-Petersen]

In Census 1930 Harald Peter Jacobsen is in the town of Tørrild in Nørup Parish, Vejle:

Harald Peter Jacobsen, M, 02. dec 1874 Skanderborg, married 1903, 5 children
Kathrine Jacobsen, F, 11. sep 1875 Aarslev
Elimar Jacobsen, M, 04. Nov 1905 Idorn
Valdemar Jacobsen, M, 16. Mar. 1908 Idorn
Borgaard Jacobsen, M, 17. Feb. 1911, Hornborg
Malthe Jacobsen, M, 14. May 1909, Vrigsted

/Ellen

[Paul Løndahl-Smidt]

Here is the birth of Harold  http://www.danishfamilysearch.dk/sogn1421/churchbook/source144737/opslag16272091

Paul

[Inger Toudal]

Oh yes, I forgot to mention that the 1930 Denmark Census is available at MyHeritage.

The original census is here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=102480#102480,16220546

- no occupation mentioned for Harald Peter Jacobsen 

Best regards,
Inger

[Ellen Steen-Petersen]

Johannes is in Copenhagen in 1919 - 1927 (and possible longer).

Married to Thora Hansine Marie Jacobsen, b. 15. Jan. 1881, København, Butterup

http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=3452560&searchname=polit_simple

/Ellen

[Ellen Steen-Petersen]

Census 1930:

Blaagaardsgade 30, 3, København:
Johannes Jacobsen, M, 12. Jul. 1885, Vraa Parish, Hjørring, Unemployed, Married 1918, 2 children
Thora Hansine Marie Jacobsen, F, 15. Jan. 1881, Bukkerup, Soderup Parish, Holbæk
Otis Murat Volmar Jacobsen, M, 7. dec. 1919, København
Villy Folkvar Elinton (?) Jacobsen, M, 25. Maj 1921, Tingerup, Soderup Parish, Holbæk

/Ellen

[Ellen Steen-Petersen]

Here is Villy's baptism. Seems he changed his name later:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=156577#156577,26242346

/Ellen

[Inger Toudal]

Johannes Jacobsen in the original 1930 census:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=103401#103401,16320556

His profession is Jord- og Betonarbejder - construction labourer.

According to Villy's birth record, Johannes and Marie were married 15 Dec. 1918 in Frederikskirken, Copenhagen:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederik%27s_Church

Cannot find the marriage record.

Best regards,
Inger

[Inger Toudal]

Wrong info in Villy's birth record. The correct place of marriage is Fredens Kirke:

https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fredens_Kirke_(K%C3%B8benhavn)

Johannes Jacobsen was a widower when he married Thora Hansine Marie Larsen 15. Dec. 1918:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17114777#149540,24736186 - No 64

His first wife Anna Johanne Henriette Lauridsen died 22 Feb. 1917, 21 years old, in Brøndum
(Bryndum) parish, Ribe county:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17121960#160675,27004647 - No 5

Johannes and Anna were married 7 Apr. 1916 in Brøndum church:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17121960#160675,27004575 - bottom

Best regards,
Inger

[Ann Johnk]

I thank all of you for your efforts to find this information.
My father, who died in February, was a nephew to these men. The family always talked about 2 more brothers in Denmark and thought they had died at an early age. This information corrects that. 

Is there any record of Marie Cathrine Petersen's death? Is that why Mikkel and Harald were split up...one with the father Mikkel, and the other with the mother, Marie Cathrine or grandparents? Is there any record of Mikkel Peter Jacobsen and Ane Marie Nielsen's marriage?

This information makes me wonder if I have cousins still living in Denmark...?

Again, I thank you for all of your help.
Ann Johnk

[Inger Toudal]

Marie Cathrine Pedersen was born 18 Jan. 1853:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17124204#164918,27701416 - No 3

This could be her 1 Feb. 1880:

Aarhus, Hasle, Aarhus Købstad, Århus Købstad 14, 730/store Torv, 4, FT-1880, a4181
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Carl Larsen    42    Gift       Husfader, Gjæstgiver    Odense
Freia Louise Larsen    31    Gift       Husmoder    Hamborg, Tydskland
Agnes Christina Larsen    5    Ugift       Barn    Aarhus
Carl Jens Bodo Larsen    4    Ugift       Barn    Aarhus
Ingeborg Larsen    3    Ugift       Barn    Aarhus
Einar André Larsen    2    Ugift       Barn    Aarhus
Jens Peter Larsen    48    Ugift       Broder Til Husfaderen    Odense
Helene Marie Jensen    24    Ugift       Tjenestepige    Røgind, Skaarup Sogn
Therese Christiansen    20    Ugift       Tjenestetyende    Odense
Jacobine Laursen    17    Ugift       Huusholdningselev    Veile
Christiane Heidiche    23    Ugift       Husjomfru    Haine, Hjørring Amt
Ane Christine Romenerdal    31    Ugift       Husbestyrerinde    Løkken, Hjørring Amt
Marie Cathrine Petersen    27    Ugift       Kokkepige    Baastrup, Hylke Sogn
- - - - - - - - - -

I haven't been able to find Mikkel Peter Jacobsen and Ane Marie Nielsen's marriage.
According to the 1901 census, they were married in 1877:

All information on selected person
Source:    FT-1901
Name:    Mikkel Peter Jakobsen   Birth date:    2/5-1847
Position in household:    Husfader   Marital status:    Gift
Occupation:    Børstenbinder   Birth place:    Hylke Skanderborg
Parish:    Vraa   District:    Børglum
County:    Hjørring   Place name:    Nørre Vraa Hede
Household-/family no:    96
Married when:    1877   Living children:    1
Cadastre:    4c
Date moved:    1877
Last residence:    Skanderborg
Religion:    Folkekirken
Source entry no:    C6021   Record no.:    587

All information on selected person
Source:    FT-1901
Name:    Ane Marie Nielsen   Birth date:    14/10-1857
Position in household:    Husmoder   Marital status:    Gift
Occupation:    alm. Husgjerning   Birth place:    Vraa S. Hj. A.
Parish:    Vraa   District:    Børglum
County:    Hjørring   Place name:    Nørre Vraa Hede
Household-/family no:    96
Cadastre:    4c
Date moved:    1877
Last residence:    Skanderborg
Religion:    Baptist
Source entry no:    C6021   Record no.:    588

NB: I haven't checked the original 1901 census.

Maybe a civil marriage, since Ane Marie was a Baptist, but perhaps not in 1877?

All information on selected person
Source:    FT-1880
Name:    Ane Marie Nielsen   Sex:    K
Age:    23
Position in household:    Datter   Marital status:    Gift
Birth place:    Vraa Sogn
Parish:    Vraa   District:    Børglum
County:    Hjørring   Place name:    Nørrevraa
Household-/family no:    34 [ 5 ]   Cadastre/address:    et Hus
Religion:    Lutheran
Source entry no:    C7028   Record no.:    323

Best regards,
Inger

[Ann Johnk]

Is there a death record for Johannes?  His twin, Thomas, is buried in Harlan, Iowa next to their mother Ane Marie. Is there a death record for Harald? I am also interested to know if any of their children and married.

Thanks again for all of your research.

Ann Johnk

[Inger Toudal]

The marriage of Marie Cathrine Pedersen:

Sogn: Århus Vor Frue Sogn     Herred: Hasle    Amt: Århus
Brudgom: Niels Carl Christian  Nielsen    Opholdssted: Århus
Brud: Marie Cathrine  Petersen    Opholdssted: Århus
Vielsesdato: 21. August 1881
Kirkebogens vielsesdata:
Brudgom: Ungkarl Niels Carl Christian Nielsen, 29 Aar, Maskinarbejder, Jægergaardsvej 40
Brud: Pige Marie Cathrine Petersen, 28 Aar, Jægergaardsvej 40
Forlovere: Skrædder Jens Christiansen, Arbmd. Mikkel Petersen
Vielsesdag: 21. August
Arkiv: C 360 B-7    Folie: 386

Source: http://www.folketimidten.dk/

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128528#173505,29190582 - No 47

The couple moved to Copenhagen in 1916:

http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=3371765&searchname=polit_adv

http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=1727933&searchname=polit_adv

Best regards,
Inger

[Inger Toudal]

Niels C. C. Nielsen and Marie Cathrine moved to Copenhagen from Helgesvej 12 [Frederiksberg]:

http://www.kbharkiv.dk/kildeviser/#!?collection=2&item=4534543

They are at Helgesvej 12, Frederiksberg in the 1916 census:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=72435#72435,13085478

Best regards,
Inger

[Inger Toudal]

Harald Peter Jacobsen's wife Ane Katrine Johanne Malthasen was born 11 Sep. 1876 in (Sønder) Aarslev parish,
Hasle district, Aarhus county:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128548#200814,38027238 - No 10

According to the 1930 census, the couple was married in 1903, and had 5 living children.

Their sons recorded in the 1930 census:

- Elemer Jacobsen b. 4 Nov. 1905 at Idom Mølle, Idum parish, Ulfborg district, Ringkøbing county:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17124304#165109,27734594 - No 12

- Valdemar Jacobsen b. 16 Mar. 1908 in the same place:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17124304#165109,27734599 - No 1

- Niels Maltha Jacobsen b. 14 May 1909 at Vrigsted Vestermølle, Vrigsted parish, Bjerre district, Vejle county:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128332#172826,29018145 - No 3

- Hjalmar Borgaard Jacobsen b. 17 Feb. 1911 at Dorteasminde, Hornborg parish, Nim district, Skanderborg county:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123920#164360,27604408 - No 3

Best regards,
Inger

[Inger Toudal]

Johannes Jacobsen and Thora Hansine Marie Larsen's son Otis Murat Volmar b. 7 Dec. 1919:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17114777#149536,24735173 - No 52

Best regards,
Inger