Need help finding Niels Nielsen and Ane Kristine Nielsen

[Dennis Hubbard]

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?epid=17125484#167201,28074632

On this opslag you have Niels Peter Nielsen b. 13 Dec 1865 to Niels Nielsen (Putative father) and Ane Kirstine Nielsen. A indsidder [lodger]
How can I find information on the Parents? I have a Niels Peter Nielsen b. 13 Aug 1865 in Chicago and immigated in 1884 or 1885. Married in Chicago to Christina Petersen b. 1868.
Niels Peter Nielsen is a foster? child on DDD
http://ddd.dda.dk/asp/vishusstand_en.asp

I have had this opslag translated back In Jan.  But now I am wondering just who the parents are.
I have a postcard from Niels Peter Nielsen to Ole Christian Nielsen b. 20 Oct 1849 • Nørre Kongerslev Sogn, Hellum, Ålborg AMT, Denmark.  Niels called Ole his uncle.

It is so hard for me to search AO plus there SO many Niels Nielsens! These are my maternal ancesters.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, Dennis Hubbard

[Bente Wanning]

Census with uncle Ole


Samtlige personer i husstanden

Aalborg, Hellum, Nørre Kongerslev, Nørre Kongerslev, Et huus, 48, FT-1850, C9686
Navn:    Alder:    Civilstand:    Stilling i husstanden:    Erhverv:    Fødested:
Niels Peter Nielsen   31   Gift      Huusfader, sognesmed   Heri Sognet [Nørre Kongerslev]
Ane Maria Olesdatter   35   Gift      Hans kone   Ulsted Sogn Aalborg Amt
Niels Nielsen   4   Ugift      Deres børn   Heri Sognet [Nørre Kongerslev]
Ole Christian Nielsen   1   Ugift      Deres børn   Heri Sognet [Nørre Kongerslev]
Just Justesen   26   Ugift      Smedkarl, hjempermenteret   Vive Sogn Aalborg Amt
Maren Kathrine Madsdatter   24   Ugift      Tjenestepige   Ulsted Sogn Aalborg Amt

Census 1855

Samtlige personer i husstanden

Aalborg, Hellum, Nørre Kongerslev, Nørre Kongerslev Bye, Et huus, 42, FT-1855, C7735
Navn:    Alder:    Civilstand:    Stilling i husstanden:    Erhverv:    Fødested:
Niels Peter Nielsen   36   Gift   Huusmand, smed      Nørre Kongerslev Sogn Aalborg Amt
Ane Maria Olesdatter   40   Gift   Hans kone      Ulsted Sogn Aalborg Amt
Niels Nielsen   9   Ugift   Deres børn      Nørre Kongerslev Sogn Aalborg Amt
Ole Christian Nielsen   6   Ugift   Deres børn      Nørre Kongerslev Sogn Aalborg Amt

Census 1860


Samtlige personer i husstanden

Aalborg, Hellum, Nørre Kongerslev, Nørre Kongerslev, Et huus, 17, FT-1870, C9696
Navn:    Alder:    Civilstand:    Stilling i husstanden:    Erhverv:    Fødested:
Niels Peter Nielsen   50   Gift   Huusfader   Smed   Nørre Kongerslev Sogn Aalborg Amt
Ane Maria Olesdatter   54   Gift   Huusmoder      Ulsted Sogn Aalborg Amt !!
Ole Christian Nielsen   20   Ugift   Barn   Møllerdreng   Nørre Kongerslev Sogn Aalborg Amt
****Niels Peter Nielsen   4   Ugift   Pleiebarn      Nørre Kongerslev Sogn Aalborg Amt
Ole Christian Jensen   19   Ugift   Tjenestetyende   Smedlærling   Komdrup Sogn Aalborg Amt


****Niels is the foster child (pleiebarn) his birth here
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?epid=17125484#167201,28074632

[Bente Wanning]

hi

Reading above census it comes to me that Niels Nielsen 4 years old in Census 1850
could be the putative father of Niels Peter Nielsen plejebarn (foster child) 4 years in Census 1870 and that is why he lives with his grand parents Niels Peter Nielsen and Ane Maria Olesdatter.
Notice grand father and grand son have the same name.
Notice that Ane Maria is born Olesdatter and they have a son called Ole.

Niels the foster childs mother Ane Kirstine Nielsen is 22 1/2 years old when Niels is born. I have not done any check up on her.

[Inger Toudal]

Niels Peter Nielsen in Chicago was born 13 Aug. 1865, but the above Niels Peter Nielsen was born 13 Dec. 1865 ??

Maybe it could be this young man emigrating in March 1884:

Navn:    Nielsen, Niels P.   Stilling:    Snedker
Alder:    18   Bestemmelsessted:    Newyork
Kontrakt nr.:    43600   Forevisningsdato:    21-03-1884
Sidste oph.sogn:    Aalborg   Sidste oph. amt:    Aalborg
Sidste oph.sted:    Aalborg   Bestemmelses land:    USA
Bestemmelses by:    New York City   Bestemmelses stat:    New York State
Skibsnavn:    Heimdal
Bemærkninger:    ANM: Heimdal.   IDkode:    D8385N1013

Source http://www.udvandrerarkivet.dk/udvandrerprotokollerne/

Immigration: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVSJ-5MMC

Best regards,
Inger Toudal

[Inger Toudal]

The putative father of Niels Peter Nielsen b. 13 Dec. 1865 in Nørre Kongerslev is Niels Nielsen Smed,
who could be the son of blacksmith Niels Peter Nielsen, as Bente pointed out:

Aalborg, Hellum, Nørre Kongerslev, Nørre Kongerslev By, Et huus, 42, FT-1860, C9615
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Niels Peter Nielsen    41    Gift    Huusmand huusfader, smed       Nørre Kongerslev Sogn Aalborg Amt
Ane Maria Olessen    45    Gift    Hans kone       Ulsted Sogn Aalborg Amt
Niels Nielsen    14    Ugift    Deres børn       Nørre Kongerslev Sogn Aalborg Amt
Ole Nielsen    11    Ugift    Deres børn       Nørre Kongerslev Sogn Aalborg Amt
Vilhelm Riber    19    Ugift    Smeddreng       Nørre Kongerslev Sogn Aalborg Amt

The godmother is maid Nicoline Nielsen from Vedom (could be Veddum in Skelund parish, Hindsted, Aalborg),
maybe the mother's sister? The mother could be here:

Aalborg, Hellum, Nørre Kongerslev, Nørre Kongerslev, En gaard, 21, FT-1870, C9696
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Mads Sørensen    29    Gift    Huusfader    Avlsbrug    Sønder Kongerslev Sogn Aalborg Amt
Maren Hansen    32    Gift    Huusmoder       Bælum Sogn Aalborg Amt
Søren Eriksen    29    Ugift    Tjenestetyende       Sønder Kongerslev Sogn Aalborg Amt
Mikkoline ?? Jensen    4    Ugift    Børn       Nørre Kongerslev Sogn Aalborg Amt
Johanne Madsen    3    Ugift    Børn       Nørre Kongerslev Sogn Aalborg Amt
Maria Madsen    Under 1    Ugift    Børn       Nørre Kongerslev Sogn Aalborg Amt
Ane Kirstine Nielsen    25    Ugift    Tjenestetyende       Blenstrup Sogn Aalborg Amt
Ane Katrine Jespersen    14    Ugift    Tjenestetyende       Rostrup Sogn Aalborg Amt !!
Thomas Poulsen    16    Ugift    Tjenestetyende       Nørre Kongerslev Sogn Aalborg Amt
Jens Christensen    32    Ugift    Logerende    Steenhugger    Valsgaard Sogn Aalborg Amt
Niels Pedersen    35    Ugift    Logerende    Steenhugger    ?? Sogn Sverige

This Ane Kirstine Nielsen seems to stay in the parish:

Aalborg, Hellum, Nørre Kongerslev, Nørre Kongerslev By og Sogn, Et Hus, Nr. 4, FT-1880, C2496
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Maren Kirstine Christensen    38    Enke    Husmoder (lever af sine Penge)       Her i Sognet
Mette Marie Eriksen    12    Ugift    Hendes Barn       Her i Sognet
Else Marie Eriksen    9    Ugift    Hendes Barn       Her i Sognet
Ane Kirstine Nielsen    36    Ugift    Indsidder, Arbejderske       Blenstrup Sogn Aalborg Amt
Jens Peter Nielsen    14    Ugift    Hendes Søn       Her i Sognet [i.e. Nørre Kongerslev parish]

She and her son are Baptists, so no confirmation (but his birth and name should have been recorded in
Nørre Kongerslev church book):
1880 census: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=54978#54978,11952164 - bottom

Is Jens Peter in the 1880 census identical with Niels Peter b. 13 Dec. 1865? Cannot find this Jens Peter born
in Nørre Kongerslev, nor in the 1870 census for the parish, and cannot find Niels Peter's confirmation.

Niels Peter Nielsen b. 13 Dec. 1865 is in the levy roll 1883 for Nørre Kongerslev parish:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?epid=16480946#19897,1646367 - top
- recorded as being abroad 1888 (probably the year he should have entered military service).

I think I found the emigration of the wrong Niels P. Nielsen in my former post.

Cannot find a Jens Peter Nielsen in the levy roll 1882, 1883, 1884, 1885, or 1886 for Nørre Kongerslev parish
(Lægd 401).

Aalborg, Hellum, Nørre Kongerslev, Nr. Kongerslev Sogn, Gaard, 48, FT-1890, D2681
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Kristen Pedersen    53    Enkemand    Husfader    Gaardejer    Vor Sogn, Hjørring Amt
Ane Kirstine Nielsen    48    Ugift    Tjenestetyende    Husholder    Dollerup*, Aalborg Amt
Ane Katrine Sørensen    16    Ugift    Tjenestetyende       Storarden, Aalborg Amt
Kristen Simon Nielsen    24    Ugift    Tjenestetyende       N. Kongerselv, Aalborg
Søren Kristian Sørensen    11    Ugift    Tjenestedreng       N. Kongerselv, Aalborg
* Dollerup is a place name in Blenstrup parish

Birth 17 Jul. 1841 in Doldrup, Blenstrup parish, of above Ane Kirstine Nielsdatter/Nielsen:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17121784#160287,26942623 - No 5

Aalborg, Hellum, Blenstrup, Doldrup, Et huus, 72, FT-1845, B6972
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Niels Christensen    30    Gift       Huusmand Acordtarbeider    Aalborg
Ane Margrethe Laursdatter    36    Gift       Hans kone    Brøndum sogn Aalborg amt
Christen Nielsen    6    Ugift       Deres børn    Heri sognet
Ane Kirstine Nielsdatter    4    Ugift       Deres børn    Ibidem
Nikoline Marie Nielsdatter    2    Ugift       Deres børn    Ibidem

Best regards,
Inger

[Dennis Hubbard]

To Inger,  I have made a mistake typing in Niels Peter Nielsen's birth Date in first message. It should be 13 Dec 1865 instead of Aug. And he was born in Nørre Kongerslev Sogn, Hellum, Ålborg AMT, Denmark.  The Cook County, Illinois 1900 census have him immigrating in 1885.  In the 1910, 1920 and 1930 censuses immigrating in 1884.  I don't know why the Church record has him leaving in 1888.

[Inger Toudal]

The note in the military levying roll only says that he was living abroad in 1888.
The record does not give any info about the emigration year.

Best regards,
Inger

[Dennis Hubbard]

OK,  Thanks Inger