Similar names causing some confusion

[Ric Rasmussen]

I am trying to figure out the parents of Johan Frederik Madsen.  I am hoping that some of you with a better knowledge of Danish can help sort this out.

His birth record is here:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-894W-K9KV?i=73&wc=M5KH-PY3%3A357517501%2C357801401%2C357956501%2C358003201%3Fcc%3D2078555&cc=2078555

His father is Mads Jensen from Hårbølle.  His mother is Maren Andersdatter from Vollerup.  Is there another name before Maren? Anna? Why are they from different places?  Is there any indication here that they were not married?

He has been attached to this couple:

Mads Jensen and Maren Andersdatter (their marriage record is 1st line of entry)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-994W-K9K5?i=245&wc=M5KH-PY3%3A357517501%2C357801401%2C357956501%2C358003201%3Fcc%3D2078555&cc=2078555

Mads is from Hårbølle and Maren is from Vollerup.  They were married 17 October 1821. 

Johan was born 17 Feb 1822.  Obviously this is only a few months later.  Would they have been married in the church if she was pregnant?

This Mads appears to have died 4 Nov 1821  (3 weeks after marriage) so would have been dead when this child was born.  Is that indicated in these records at all?  His death record is here:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-894W-K9SJ?i=301&wc=M5KH-PY3%3A357517501%2C357801401%2C357956501%2C358003201%3Fcc%3D2078555&cc=2078555

Maren Andersdatter appears to have died 27 Feb 1822 (4 months after marriage).  Her death record is here (3rd entry):

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-894W-K9QR?i=323&wc=M5KH-PY3%3A357517501%2C357801401%2C357956501%2C358003201%3Fcc%3D2078555&cc=2078555

She is from Hårbølle and the same age as the Maren in the marriage record.  Is there anything in her death record that says that her husband was dead tying the two of them together?

Johan was christened on Wednesday, 27 October 1822.  This was the same day Maren died.  Is this coincidence?  Wednesday would have been an unusual day to do the christening.

To add to the confusion, the 1834 census shows this family:

Præstø, Mønbo, Fanefjord, Store Dame, Et Huus, 127, FT-1834, B9345
Name:    Age:    Marital status:    Position in household:    Occupation:    Birth place:
Hemming Hansen   27   Gift      Hmd: med Jord   
Anne Hansdatter   50   Gift      hans Kone [Hemming Hansen]   
Hemming Madsen   15   Ugift      deres Børn [Hemming Hansen og Anne Hansdatter]   
Johan Madsen   11   Ugift      deres Børn [Hemming Hansen og Anne Hansdatter]   

This Johan would be basically the same age.  If the birth record of Johan includes the name Anne before Maren (see above question) then this may be his mother, a brother and probably a step-father.  But they are from Dame (could have moved with the remarriage).

Do these records give any clues to straighten this out?  Thanks in advance for taking the time to look at this.  I recognize it is fairly complicated.

Ric

[Jesper Skov]

Afdøde Indsid. Mads
Jensen af Haarbølle
og afdøde Kone Maren
Anders D af Vollerup

Indsid. = lodger
afdøde = deceased
Kone = wife


Kind regards,

Jesper Skov

[Ric Rasmussen]

Wow, Jesper!  Thank you!  That provides a lot of enlightenment.

So it appears that they were married while she was pregnant and then dad died a few weeks later and mom died right after child birth.  How sad!

Would there be any record or way of knowing where the child went?

Thanks,

Ric

[Ralph Rasmussen]

Without giving a link, Jesper seems to be quoting from Johan's confirmation.  If so, that places him in 1836.  The 1834 census appears to have been February 18, when strictly speaking he had just reach 12 years old.

[Ric Rasmussen]

Ralph,

Jesper is quoting from Johan's birth which I provided the link for in the original message.  I hadn't thought about checking the confirmation.  Thank you for that thought.

Here's the link:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-894W-PKLZ?i=269&wc=M5KC-VZZ%3A357517501%2C357801401%2C357956501%2C358014601%3Fcc%3D2078555&cc=2078555

It appears to also say that father was deceased.  Doesn't give that same indication for the mother but the other records show that.

That also led me to look differently in the 1834 census and I found this:

Præstø, Mønbo, Fanefjord, Wollerup, En Gaard, 8, FT-1834, B9345
Name:    Age:    Marital status:    Position in household:    Occupation:    Birth place:
Hans Nielsen   28   Gift      Gaardmand   
Karen Pedersdatter   35   Gift      hans Kone [Hans Nielsen]   
Peder Pedersen   11   Ugift      Deres Børn [Hans Nielsen og Karen Pedersdatter]   
Anders Pedersen   10   Ugift      Deres Børn [Hans Nielsen og Karen Pedersdatter]   
Ane Pedersdatter   6   Ugift      Deres Børn [Hans Nielsen og Karen Pedersdatter]   
Karen Hansdatter   4   Ugift      Deres Børn [Hans Nielsen og Karen Pedersdatter]   
Bodil Hansdatter   1   Ugift      Deres Børn [Hans Nielsen og Karen Pedersdatter]   
Johan Frid: Madsen   13   Ugift      Pleiesøn [Hans Nielsen og Karen Pedersdatter]   
Lisbeth Jensdatter   19   Ugift      Tjenestepige [Hans Nielsen og Karen Pedersdatter]   

So he was adopted into this family.

Thanks for pointing me there.

Ric