Unable to find records for 4th great grandparents - need help!

[Paul Olesen]

I have been trying to find records for my 4th great grandparents, Jens Jensen and Karen Laursdatter. I have been looking for many days but have not been able to find much. Asking for your help is my last effort before I give up.

This is what I have found:

The As Sogn census for 1787 list Jens Jensen age 40, Karen Laursdatter age 32 and their children Jens 10, Søren 6, Laurs 4, and Jens 2.

The Assens Sogn census for 1801 list Karen Laursdatter 35 and a new spouse Jørgen Sørensen. It also list Ane Katrine Jensdatter age 12 as the "Mandens Steddatter". Ane is my 3rd great grandmother.

I have found the following records:

Baptism of Jens Jensen 26 March 1749 Vejle, Bjerre, Klakring, Enesteministerialbog (1687 FVD - 1755 FVD) page 296 – right column 2nd from bottom
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=159774#159774,26863531

Betrothal of Jens Jensen and Karen Laursdatter  12 November 1779 Vejle, Bjerre, Glud, Enesteministerialbog (1760 FKVD - 1780 FKVD)  page 250 – lower left
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=162757#162757,27344721

Marriage of Jens Jensen and Karen Laursdatter 21 March 1780 Vejle, Bjerre, Glud, Enesteministerialbog (1760 FKVD - 1780 FKVD)  page 253 – lower right
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=162757#162757,27344724

Baptism of Jens Jensen  1777 Vejle, Bjerre, As, Enesteministerialbog (1753 FVD - 1783 FVD) page 31 – born out of wedlock
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=159776#159776,26863746

Baptism of Anne Katrine Jensdatter 27 November 1791 Vejle, Bjerre, Klakring, Enesteministerialbog (1783 FVD - 1814 FVD) page 48
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=159777#159777,26863851

I also found the following which may or may not be correct.

Burial of Jens Jensen 5 Nov 1796 Vejle, Bjerre, Klakring,  Enesteministerialbog (1783 FVD - 1814 FVD) page 53
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=159777#159777,26863856

Baptism of Karen Laursdatter 14 November 1756 Vejle, Bjerre, Uth, Enesteministerialbog  (1684 FKVD - 1814 FKVD) page 70
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=171225#171225,28740382

I would like to find the baptism records for the rest of the children, the baptism and burial record for Karen Laursdatter and the correct burial record for Jens Jensen. My ability to read handwritten Danish is limited so any help would be appreciated.

Thank you for your help.
Paul Olesen 

[Ralph Rasmussen]

Observations: 

Karen Laursdatter hardly aged only 3 years between 1787 and 1801.

Ane Kathrine was actually baptized in November 1790; the next church year had just begun.

No new information, but Ane Kathrine was confirmed in 1806, opslag (lookup) 64.

Karen Laursdatter would logically be married in the parish she lived in at Jens's death.  I didn't see a marriage in either of the parishes in the As/Klakring register.

Jens Jensen in Westerby in 1790 is apparently not a Skovfoget.

[Paul Olesen]

Thanks Ralph
I totally missed the age difference between 1787 and 1801. I am feeling rather foolish.
Paul

[Ralph Rasmussen]

With more and more probates posted and even extracted, Jens Jensen skovfoget's probate may be something you can track down.

[Paul Olesen]

Karen was 48 not 35 in the 1801 census. Jørgen Sørensen her new spouse was 35. Sorry for the typo.

[Inger Toudal]

The censuses:

Vejle, Bjerre, As, Ringstholm, , 4, FT-1787, A3583
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:    
Jens Jensen    40    Gift    Mand    Bonde og Huusmand    
Karen Laursdatter    32    Gift    Kone       
Jens Jensen    10    -    Deres Børn       
Søren Jensen    6    -    Deres Børn       
Laurs Jensen    4    -    Deres Børn       
Jens Jensen    2    -    Deres Børn       
Ankirstine Nielsdatter    23    Ugift    Indsidder       
Ankatrine Sørensdatter    4    -    hendes uægte Barn

Vejle, Bjerre, As, Assens Sogn, Heedehuuse, 3, FT-1801, B9164
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:
Jørgen Sørensen    35    Gift    Mand    Huusmand med Jord    
Karen Laursdatter    48    Gift    Hans Kone       
Ane Katrine Jensdatter    12    Ugift    Mandens Steddatter       
Kirsten Marie Sørensdatter - Kirsten Marie Jørgensdatter!!    5    Ugift    Deres Barn       
Magrete Sørensdatter    24    Ugift    Mandens Syster    Wanwittig og har sit Ophold hos Broderen

Jørgen Sørensen's daughter Kiersten baptized 12 March 1797:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=159777#159777,26863857 - left page

Best regards,
Inger Toudal

[Inger Toudal]

Maybe the betrothal of Jørgen Sørensen and Karen Laursdatter 7 May 1795:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17121476#159777,26863820 - left page, bottom

The groom Jørgen and the deceased are registered with their bynames:

- Troelovede 7 Maj Jørgen Heede og Jens Skous Enke Karen Laursd:

The marriage is on the same Opslag, right page, 17 Oct. 1795:

- Copul: Samme Dag Jørgen Hede og Jens Skous Enke.

I think Jens Jensen was also called Jens Skou. He died 29 Dec. 1794 (same Opslag, left page):

- Død 29 Dcb: Sønd efter nye Aar begravet Jens Skou æt. 46.

I found the wrong Kiersten in my former posting.

Jørgen Heede's daughter Kiesten Marie was baptized in December 1796:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17121476#159777,26863822 - left page, Kirke Aar 1797:

Fød - Samme Dag [D: 3tia Adv:] blev Jørgen Heedes Barn introduceret i Kirken, hendes Navn
var  Kiesten Marie.

Best regards,
Inger

[Inger Toudal]

Anne Katrine baptized Dom. 1 Adv. 1790 was the daughter of Jens Jensen in Vesterby [Klakring parish].
Her godmother was Jørgen Christophersen's daughter Bodil, so her father was possibly this Jens Jensen ??

Vejle, Bjerre, Klakring, Klakring Sogn, Westerbye, 1, FT-1787, B9159
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       
Jørgen Christophersen    57    Gift    Mand    Bonde og Gaardbeboer    
Anne Pedersdatter    53    Gift    Koene       
Peder Jørgensen    26    Ugift    Børn       
Anne Marie Jørgensdatter    23    Ugift    Børn       
Bodil Marie Jørgensdatter    21    Ugift    Børn       
Maren Jørgensdatter    19    Ugift    Børn       
Susanne Jørgensdatter    9    Ugift    Børn       
Kirstine Jørgensdatter    6    Ugift    Børn       
Christopher Jørgensen    14    Ugift    Børn       
Hans Jørgensen    12    Ugift    Børn       
Jens Hansen    37    Ugift    Tienestefolk       
Søren Madsen    21    Ugift    Tienestefolk       
Jens Jensen    30    Gift    Indsidder       
Christiane Sørensdatter    28    Gift    Kone       
Johanne Olufsdatter    67    Enke    Indsidder

The 1801 census makes me even more confused. I'm not at all sure if this is Anne Katrine b. 1790:

Vejle, Bjerre, Klakring, Klakring Sogn, Westerbye, 7, FT-1801, B9165
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:
Jens Pedersen    45    Gift    Mand    Huusmand med Jord    
Else Rasmusdatter    40    Gift    Hans Kone       
Ane Catrine Jensdatter    10    Ugift    Hendes Børn       
Jens Bredal Jensen    6    Ugift    Hendes Børn

Best regards,
Inger  

[Inger Toudal]

Paul, do you know from later records whether your 3rd great grandmother Ane Katrine Jensdatter was
born in As parish, or in Klakring parish?

Jens Skou's daughter Anne Marie was baptized Dom. Jub. (3rd Sunday after Easter) 1791 in As parish:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17121476#159777,26863815 - right page

Best regards,
Inger

[Paul Olesen]

She was born in Klakring Sogn.

Baptism of Anne Katrine Jensdatter 27 November 1790 Vejle, Bjerre, Klakring, Enesteministerialbog (1783 FVD - 1814 FVD) page 48
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=159777#159777,26863851

Fød
Dom 1 adv: Jens Jensen i Vesterbye barn Døbt  Anne Katrine susc Jørgen Christophersens Datter Bodil Test: Bredall, Sindberg og Gartneren paa Barritskou


Thank you for all your help.

Paul

[Paul Olesen]

Hi,
I have been looking through my materials I have on Anna Katrine. She was married to Rasmus Jørgensen Hamborg 12 October 1814 in Assens Sogn.

Marriage of Rasmus Jørgensen and Anne Katrine Jensdatter 12 October 1814 Vejle, Bjerre, As, Enesteministerialbog (1783 FVD - 1814 FVD) page 38
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=159777#159777,26863841

After marriage they lived in Sønderbye, Glud Sogn. All their children are born there including my 2nd great grandmother Kjersten Rasmusdatter.

Looking today, I found in the 1860 Census for Glud Sogn the following:

Ane Katrine Jensdatter  70 Enke Gaardmands enke, Assens Sogn, Veile Amt
Ane Marie Rasmusdatter 25 Ugift Hindes Datter, I Sognet (Glud)

So, the Ane Katrine born in Klakring was not my 4th great grandmother. My original thinking that the Klakring Anne was the correct Anne was based on an old genealogy that my father had. It listed Anne being born in Klakring in 1789 but had no documentation.  He passed away many years ago so I cannot ask him about it.

It is very confusing!  I did find one Anne Katrine born I think out of wedlock in 1790 in As sogn but I cannot read the entry well enough to tell if that might be the Anne I am looking for.

Thanks again for all your help.

Paul Olesen

[Inger Toudal]

Posting censuses showing Ane Katrine Jensdatter's age (which is, of course, not her exact age):

Vejle, Bjerre, Glud, Sønderbye, et Boelssted, 25, FT-1834, C0523
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       
Rasmus Jørgensen    53    Gift       Boelsmand    
Ane Katrine Jensdatter    47    Gift       hans Kone    
Kirsten Rasmusdatter    19    Ugift       deres Børn    
Jørgen Rasmussen    15    Ugift       deres Børn    
Karen Rasmusdatter    12    Ugift       deres Børn    
Marie Kirstine Rasmusdatter    10    Ugift       deres Børn    
Søren Rasmussen    8    Ugift       deres Børn    
Laurs Rasmussen    6    Ugift       deres Børn    
Else Katrine Rasmusdatter    4    Ugift       deres Børn    
Ane Rasmusdatter    2    Ugift       deres Børn

Vejle, Bjerre, Glud, Sønderbye, Et Boelssted, 27, FT-1840, C6129
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       
Ane Cathrine Jensdatter    53    Enke       Boelsmands Enke
Jens Jørgen Rasmussen    22    Ugift       Enkens Børn    
Laurs Rasmussen    13    Ugift       Enkens Børn    
Else Cathrine Rasmusdatter    11    Ugift       Enkens Børn    
Ane Rasmusdatter    8    Ugift       Enkens Børn    
Ane Marie Rasmusdatter    5    Ugift       Enkens Børn

Vejle, Bjerre, Glud, Sønderby, et Boelsted, 25, FT-1845, C0534
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Ane Cathrine Jensdatter    59    Enke       Boelsmands Enke    Assens S Weile Amt
Ane Rasmusdatter    14    -       hendes Børn    Her i Sognet
Ane Marie Rasmusdatter    10    -       hendes Børn    Her i Sognet
Jens Jørgen Rasmussen    27    Gift       hendes Søn    Her i Sognet
Ane Kirstine Jørgensdatter    31    Gift       hans Kone    Alrøe S Aarhuus A
Jørgen Jensen    3    -       deres Børn    Her i Sognet
Ane Cathrine Jensdatter    1    -       deres Børn    Her i Sognet

Vejle, Bjerre, Glud, Sønderby, 3, en Gaard, 124, FT-1850, D2028
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Ane Cathrine Jensdatter    61    Enke       Gaardmands Enke, Huusmoder    Assens Sogn, Veile Amt
Jens Jørgen Rasmussen    31    Gift       hendes Søn, Avlskarl    Her i Sognet
Ane Kirstine Jørgensdatter    35    Gift       hans Kone    Alrøe Sogn, Aarhus Amt
Jørgen Jensen    8    Ugift       deres Børn    Her i Sognet
Ane Cathrine Jensdatter    6    Ugift       deres Børn    Her i Sognet
Rasmus Jensen    4    Ugift       deres Børn    Her i Sognet
Søren Jensen    1    Ugift       deres Børn    Her i Sognet
Ane Marie Rasmusdatter    15    Ugift       Enkens Barn    Her i Sognet  

Her death record 27 Aug 1875, 88 years old (which is not necessarily her exact age):

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123076#162763,27345669 - No 11

Best regards,
Inger