Seeking help reading census page and determining location

[Martha Miller]

I found my grandmother listed in the second link below (Ingeborg Wibholm).  I am taking my mother to DK this summer and hope to visit places where my grandmother had lived.  Does this census show the location (street address/farm), by chance, along with the location of their previous residence?  I also can't make out Ole Wibholm's occupation exactly...

Thanks in advance for any help reading, translating this!


https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=79716#79716,13593770

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=79716#79716,13593773


Also, I am seeking help determining the birthplace of her sister, Esther Wibholm, listed on this page (they were marked out I assume because they emigrated):

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=101169#101169,16092332

[Inger Toudal]

Unfortunately, no village, farm, or house is mentioned in the census.

Ole Wibholm is Gaardbestyrer 'bailiff' with Forp.[Forpagter] 'tenant farmer, lessee' Christensen.

Previous residence: Vrejlev sogn, Hjørring amt

I think the employer is here, but cannot make out the farm name in the stamp:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=79716#79716,13593766

Chr. Christensen is mentioned here, too: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=79716#79716,13593612 - right page

Ester Wibholm's birth place: Albæk

Best regards,
Inger Toudal

[Martha Miller]

 Inger, I really appreciate your input.  It's too bad it's so difficult to identify where they lived...Vrejlev Sogn, for example, is, I'm sure, a fairly large area...

Interesting, I also see the stamp, now that you pointed it out, but also cannot make it out, unfortunately. 

Tusind tak!
Martha

[Inger Toudal]

I think the place where Ole Wibskov is employed could be Voergaard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voergaard_Castle

In the 1921 census, the Matr.nr. [matrikelnummer]  'Land registration number' should be recorded in the 1st column.

The numbers above Chr. Christensen's signature could perhaps be a land registration number / land registration numbers: 

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=79716#79716,13593770 - bottom of page

Best regards,
Inger

[Martha Miller]

Interesting, Inger, I was wondering this also.  Is there a database, I wonder, of land registration numbers to confirm?  I thought I might send a note to the Castle staff to inquire if they have records...

Tak igen!

[Verner Bentsen]

I don't think that the numbers above Chr. Christensen's signature has anything to do with landregistration.

9 is number of places ( houses ) and 22 + 30 ( 52 ) is the number of persons.

See skema 53 here:  https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=79716#79716,13593612

mvh Verner

[Verner Bentsen]

Residences:

Ole Kristian Vibholm b. 6-10-1917. Hjørring Hede "Holmen"
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=164103#164103,27552763

Ingeborg Cecile Vibholm b. 16-2-1916. Hjørring Hede, Falsiggaard.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=164103#164103,27552907

Esther Margrethe Vibholm b 20. apr. 1922. Alfarvad, Albæk sogn.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=159536#159536,26828422

FT 1925: Mulbjerggaard ( Frederikshavnsvej )

Verner

[Inger Toudal]

I don't think that the numbers above Chr. Christensen's signature has anything to do with landregistration.

9 is number of places ( houses ) and 22 + 30 ( 52 ) is the number of persons.

See skema 53 here:  https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=79716#79716,13593612

Verner is right. It's the number of households and persons on each list that's recorded above the signature, so no info in the census about where
exactly the family lived in 1921  

Just noticed that the vicar (Sognepræst) is mentioned in household # 13 on top of the page, so maybe the Wibholm family lived next to the vicarage?

Best regards,
Inger

[Martha Miller]

Tak saa meget, Verner og Inger!

[Karin Andersen]

Hi Martha  

A little more info:

No.  7.
[Date of birth] 16. feb. 1893
[Place of birth] Dyrlægegaarden [The wets farm] V. Brønderslev By og Sogn, Børglum Herred.
[Name] Kathrine Jørgensen Vestergaard
[Parents] Christian Jørgensen# Farmowner in V[ester] Brønderslev and wife Ane Cecilie Marie f. Andresen Vestermark, 29 years old. Born 6.th of January 1864.
[Baptised] 3. Juni 1893
[Baptised by] The parish priest in Brønderslev church.
[Witnesses] 1. The mother, 2. [The] maid Jemine Andresen Vestermark, Ingstrup 3. Farmowner Søren Christian Jensen, 4. Farmowner Christian Madsen Vrangdrup, 5. Farmowner Thomas Thomasen, Thise.
# [Remarks] Christian Vestergaard Marts 31.th. [19]05 by royal "allowance"?. (He was allowed to change his name)
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17121944#171869,28856961

The church:
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=cr,ssl&ei=f8GqVKWAH473O5-dgSA&fg=1#q=V.+Br%C3%B8nderslev%2Bkirke&rflfq=1&rlha=0&rllag=57258784,9976348,1810&tbm=lcl&rldimm=16571458808350207303&tbs=lrf:!2m1!1e2!3sEAE,lf:1,lf_ui:1&rlfi=hd:;si:,57.282197531568585,9.933528900146484;mv:!1m3!1d11373.800888063013!2d9.97634875!3d57.25878495!2m3!1f0!2f0!3f0!3m2!1i302!2i253!4f13.1;tbs:lrf:!2m1!1e2!3sEAE,lf:1,lf_ui:1&spf=1495495835161
More about the church:
http://www.broenderslevkirke.dk/

The area:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=14rwE0FO-bBz0CrNvdSDzh0HgJAY&hl=en_US&ll=57.267799%2C9.947179000000005&z=14

The wise and very kind people - you might want to contact them, they know a lot about the area and the people that live/livede there  
http://www.bronderslevarkiv.dk/

Kind regards  

Karin

[Martha Miller]

Tusind tak, Karin! 

I think I found that very spot - https://goo.gl/maps/DQcjXqVFtdn - it looks as though Dyrlægegaarden, at least the place name, still exists(?) or am I mistaken?

I will try the archive you suggested.

Tak!

[Inger Toudal]

1916 census, Hjørring Landsogn, Matr.Nr. 1c: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BQ-S8BF-P?i=1762&cc=2717471

The name of the farm where Ingeborg Cecilie was born is Fælsiggaard: https://www.slaegtogdata.dk/forum/index.php?topic=110800.0

http://valdemar.kms.dk/cgi-valdemar/valdebsktxt?rgn=DK&stn=K-47-09257&crd=utm32Letrs89&hgt=h_dvr90&wt=2&ut=6291456&st=0

Best regards,
Inger

[Inger Toudal]

Fælsigvej, Hjørring: https://www.google.com/maps/dir//F%C3%A6lsigvej,+9800+Hj%C3%B8rring,+Denmark/@57.4469657,10.0435069,15z

The farm Alfarvad, Grønhedevej 58, Sæby, in Albæk parish: http://geneablog.kilokilokilo.dk/2013/gaarde-i-albaek-sogn/

https://www.google.com/maps/dir//57.255954,10.442462/@57.2555615,10.4402954,17z

Voer Præstegaard (vicarage), Voergårdsvej 26, Dronninglund, and Voergård:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Voerg%C3%A5rdsvej+26,+9330+Dronninglund,+Denmark/@57.239977,10.3404263,15z

Best regards,
Inger

[Martha Miller]

Thank you so much for those links, Inger!  So, do you think that the farm in Voer was at the vicarage?   I really appreciate the help!

[Karin Andersen]

Hi Martha  

I do think you found the right place. I´m somewhat familiar with Vester Brønderslev, but not with this place/street. The archive in Vester Brønderslev will know.

Also in Vester Brønderslev you find very dedicated geneologists. They might know something about your family.

Good luck and great wishes for a nice trip to Denmark  

Karin

[Inger Toudal]

Thank you so much for those links, Inger!  So, do you think that the farm in Voer was at the vicarage?   I really appreciate the help!

Yes, I think the Wibholm family lived close to the vicarage, or the church, which is located opposite the vicarage.

Best regards,
Inger

[Martha Miller]

Thank you so much, Inger!