Who is the father? Skaerbaek, Haderslev, image 139, top of right column, #7

Startet af Claude Anders Hanson, 27 Nov 2017 - 01:36

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Claude Anders Hanson

https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1795/churchbook/source139031/opslag15229825
I'm concerned about who the father of Bodil Maria Høms is.  I have him listed as Willads Pedersen Høms and only the given name Ane for his wife.  Today, I found a birth record for a Willads Pedersen in 1795 and  a marriage record for a Willads Pedersen and  Anna Dorthea Brodersen in 1828, 13 years after Bodil was born!  And Willads would have only been 18 when she was born.  I hope someone can translate into English the baptism entry and it may give me a clue to where I mismanaged or misinterpreted data.  Thanks, Claude

Ole Westermann

Hi Claude

1813 nr 12. Bodil Maria Høms
Den 31te Marti hiemmedøbt Villads Pedersen og hustru Anne af Østgasse deres Datter.
Proklameret paa Kristi Himmelfartsdag.
Testes: Niels Pedersen fra Høm, Simon Sørensen af Østergasse, Anne Okkesdatter ibid.
           Karen Kristensdat(ter) ibid. Else Katrine Sørensdatter ibidem.
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The 31th of March bp. at home Villads Pedersen and wife Anne of Østergasse their daughter.
Proclamed on Ascension Day.
Testes: Niels Pedersen from Høm, Simon Sørensen of Østergasse, Anne Okkesdatter ibid.
           Karen Kristensdat(ter) ibid. Else Katrine Sørensdatter ibidem.

Ole

Bente Wanning

Bodil

   
Bodild Marie Høm
Denmark Census, 1840
Name   Bodild Marie Høm
Event Type   Census
Event Date   1840
Event Place   Skærbæk, Hviding, Tønder, Danmark
Event Place (Original)   Skærbæk, Hviding, Tønder, Denmark
Age   27
Marital Status   Single
Birth Year (Estimated)   1813
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Hans Michelsen Bjerum      M   33   
Else Willayser      F   31   
Michael Hansen Bjerum      U   8   
Willatz Hansen Bjerum      U   6   
Andreas Hansen Bjerum      U   3   
Anders Hansen Bjerum      U   1   
Bodild Marie Høm      U   27   


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Bente Wanning 
Hjørring amt <Skæve<Voer<Astrup<Åsted sogne
Hals Arkiv 9370
Medlem af DS Danmark -

Christian Konstmann Autzen

Høm is a place in the parish of Seem, Ribe amt.

The father Villads Pedersen could have been born in Høm in Seem parish, and his brother could then have been Niels Pedersen from Høm.

Greetings
Christian
Min slægt: Autzen, Konstmann, Nansen, Hegelund, Sønberg, Matzen, Schmidt, Kruse, Wolf. Min hustru's slægt: Mærsk, Fogh, Møller, Hark, Lund, Aaskou, Blom, Dethlefsen, Beyer, Troels Winther.

Ole Westermann

#4
Census 1787 Ribe, Ribe, Seem (Kongerigsk), Høhm Bye, En Gaard
Peder Pedersen      74     Gift     Husbond     Gaardbeboer       
Karen Pedersdatter 63     Gift     Madmoder            
Peder Pedersen      30     Ugift     Barn            
Willads Pedersen      21     Ugift     Barn            
Mette Kirstine Pedersdatter     17     Ugift     Barn  
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Levying roll (lægdsrulle) 1792
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=17832#17832,916348
Father Peder Pedersen Høm
35-31 Villads - born in Høm - age 24 - height 6?"
Vedtegninger (notes)
Uden Pas bortfløttet til                              Without pass moved to Skærbæk parish
Skierbeck Sogn, efter Afgangs                    and he received a punishment for that, prob. a fine.
Listen - Under Notat 95
  (left)
Straffet Sess. 95.  .. .. Amtpas
                           Litr. D.95.
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Next roll 1795: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=17834#17834,916703
31-31 Villads - born in Høem - age 27 - height 60" -
        now in Østergasse with 'Amtspas' and guaranteed by his father, farmer Peder Pedersen

But I don't think he got married to Anne .... in Skærbæk p. - then where?

Inger Toudal

#5

In the index for Skærbæk church records, there's a Villads who died 83 years old in 1847:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=18484602#237152,45124816 - right page

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17217226#202385,38361997 - No 3

- together with his wife and his child, he was found murdered in the house.

His wife and daughter are here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17217226#202385,38362022 - No 7 & 8

He was married in 1832: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17217226#202384,38361668 - No 3

It seems to be the same Villads who was maried to Anna Pedersdatter in Skærbæk 27 Dec. 1793:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17217222#202372,38360265 - right page, No 11

- their betrothal 13 Dec. is on the same page, bottom of 1st column. Villads Pedersen is of Høm in Seem parish.

Ane Villadsen née Pedersdatter died 15 Nov. 1831, 62 years old:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17217226#202384,38361714 - bottom of page

Best regards,
Inger Toudal
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Inger Toudal

Ole Westermann

Census 1803 Tønder, Hviding, Skærbæk, Dorfs Ostergasse, 5
Willatz Petersen                    38     Verheir.     Hausvat.     Hufener      
Anna Peters                    34     Verheir.     dessen Frau           
Peter Jespersen Willassen*         9          Kinder           
Hans Christophersen Willassen  2          Kinder           
Karen Kristens                    15          Brudertochter des Hausvaters           
Hans Christophersen       55     Verheir.     Eltern des Vaters (WRONG !!)     Abnahmeleute      
Else Nielses                    61     Verheir.     Eltern des Vaters (WRONG !!)    Abnahmeleute      
Anders Martinsen                    24     Unverheir.     Dienstboten           
Maria Hanses                    31     Unverheir.     Dienstboten           
Marina Peters                    23     Unverheir.     Schwester der Frau           
Thomas Hansen                    80               Abnahmeleute

  * https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=202372#202372,38360346
1794 nr 11 Dom. Jubilate was Willaz Pedersen and wife Anna Peders from Østgasse their on April 4
  home baptized son publ. confirmed, named Peder Jespersen Høem etc....   
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Betrothal Dec.13, 1793 - and marriage Dec.27 (no 11)
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=202372#202372,38360265 right, left column bottom
Willadz Petersen of Høm in Seem p. and Anna Pedersdatter of Østergasse, both young people.
Best men were Hans Christophersen and Ock Knudsen, both of Østergasse. 

Ole Westermann

#7

Claude Anders Hanson

Ole, Inger, Chrstian and Bente:

I'm overwhelmed at the generosity of those who responded to this request.  Thank you, thank you, thank you.  I have a lot to study and mentally  digest!!  I am reminded that I should be cautious when I find an entry in the church records that seems like it is what I am looking for.... I just need to look a little further when it doesn't really fit with my other data.  I'm learning, albeit slower than most!!!  Thanks so much for the abundance of information!  Claude

Inger Toudal


I think Bodil Maria's mother is Anne Pedersdatter b. 1769 in Skærbæk parish:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=18484602#237152,45124802 - left page

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17217222#202371,38360230 - right page, No 16

d 23 Jul: Peder Jespersen
Øster Gasse en Daater           Anne
(the record continues on the next page)

The age at death 1831 and the place name fits with this Anne, and Willaz Pedersen and Anna Peders had a son called Peder Jespersen.

Best regards,
Inger
Venlig hilsen
Inger Toudal

Claude Anders Hanson

Thanks Inger:  Surprisingly I had already decided that she was Bodil's mother.  I just found her death record today...15 Nov 1830... Willads wasted little time finding a wife... he married Mette Kjestrin Nielsdatter six months later on 10 May 1832!  It was she and a 12 year old daughter who were murdered along with Willads in 1847.  Ole sent me a transcription of the murder stories and I've been working today trying to fit everything together.  Thanks again. :)