Can the names of the couple be translated on marriage record? Ørslev, 5 Apr 1724

[Roger Nelson]

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17138819#179216,30395494

Opslag #145, 5 Apr 1724 Trolovet & copuleret on right for Corporal Mathias Johansen or Hartvig?  Anne?

Kindest regards, Rog

[Karin Andersen]

Hi 

I think some of it can.

5 Apr 1724 Trolovet & copuleret on right for Corporal Mathias Johansen og Anne Ped[er]s[datter] i Hylken? Møl[le] pfxxx xxxx

I cant´t read the end of the line.

Kind Regards 

Karin

[Roger Nelson]

Hi Karin,

Mange tak!

Best wishes, Rog

[Ole Westermann]

I read:

d 5 Apr. trolovet Corporal Mathias Johans(en) og Anne Ped(ersdatter) i Hylken Mølle ..... ....... (unreadable)
-------------- translation
d 5 Apr. betrothed corporal Mathias Johans(en) and Anne Ped(ersdatter) in Hylken Mill ..... ....... (unreadable)

Their marriage can't be found - could have happened somewhere else.  Or 2 lines below:

Copuleret (married) Corporal Hartvig og Anne Ped(er)sd(atte)r Festo Visitat. Mariæ

Has the vicar made a mistake about the name of the groom??

Ole

[Roger Nelson]

Hi, Ole

I think that is Mathias Johansen Corporal's marriage to Anne Pedersdatter in 2 lines below.  I have found a Mathias Corporal, Mathias Johansen Corporal, Mathias Johansen, and Mathias Johansen Hartvig on various records.  I believe his marriage to Anne Pedersen in 1724 might be his second marriage because a Mathias Corporal has a daughter, Anne Christiane, born in Ørslev sogn in 1720.  Mathias was possibly married to a Wilhelmine Kristiane Neymann but cannot verify that.  I cannot find his death or the death of either Anne Pedersdatter or Wilhelmine Kristiane Neymann.

Kindest regards,

Rog

[Ole Westermann]

So it is in fact one man - Mathias Johansen Hartvig - just to tease us.

[Karin Jørgensen]

http://www.wadschier.com/afskrifter/wedelsborg_godsarkiv_skifteprotokol_1_1709-1826_w.pdf

Vilhelmine Christiane Neyman, Ålsbo, Rørup, 17-03-1724. II-43b (283) 
~ korporal Mathias Johansen Hartvig 
Henrik Mathiasen 2 år
Anne Kirstina Mathiasdatter 4 år, værge
morfar kaptajn Neyman, Tågerud.

Mathias Johansen, Ålsbo, Rørup,11-03-1751, III-226 (239)
~ 1 Vilhelmine Christiane Neyman, Ålsbo, Rørup, 17-03-1724. II-43b (283)
Henrik Mathiasen sergent i Rendsborg,
Stine Mathiasdatter ~ Jeppe Pedersen, Ørslev. 
~ 2 Anne Pedersdatter, lavværge Morten Møller i Hylken Mølle
Peder Mathiasen, Gelsted Tårup
Johan Mathiasen 24 år
Christian Mathiasen 22 år fæster gården
Henrik Mathiasen 14 år
Vilhelmine Mathiasdatter 
Nabo Hans Andersen skylder efter dom 16-10-1750: 15 RD

Karin

[Roger Nelson]

Karin, Mange tak

[Roger Nelson]

Is 17-03-1724 the date of Vilhelmine Christiane Neyman's death in Ålsbo, Rørup?

[Karin Jørgensen]

The death date is about 30 days before. This is from the probat lists of Wedellsborg Estate.

The church books from Gelsted-Rørup starts 1747, and death people are from 1758.

Karin

[Roger Nelson]

Karin, Thanks again.