Anna's mother should be in Østergasse, Skærbæk, Tonder, Demark, 1760's & 70's

Startet af Claude Anders Hanson, 20 Dec 2017 - 02:57

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Claude Anders Hanson

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=202371#202371,38360230
I'm having such a hard time reading the churchbook entries for Skærbæk parish in Tonder Amp that I may as well be blind in one eye and can't see out of the other.  Below is information I have on Anna, the daughter of Peder Jespersen.  I'm looking for her mother and have tried to find brothers and sisters.  It seems obvious to me that I  should find them in the area at least between 1769 and 1784 and perhaps thru 1831 when Anna was buried.  All of these events took place not only in Skærbæk, but more specifically in the village of ØsterGasse.  Here is what I have:  Any help will be appreciated.


Person            Anna Pedersdatter
Spouse           Willads Pedersen Høms
Parents           Peder Jespersen & ?????

Birth               23 Jul 1769  Østergasse, Skærbæk, Tonder, Denmark                                               0
Confirmation             1787  Østergasse, Skætbæk, Tonder, Denmark                                               18
Marriage         27 Dec 1793 Willads Pedersen Høms - 36 - Østergasse, Skærbæk, Tonder, Denmark    24
Death             15 Nov 1831 Østergasse, Skærbæk, Tonder, Denmark,                                               62

Peder Jespersen
Birth              abt. 1719
Death             2 Jun 1784  Østergasse, Skærbæk, Tonder, Denmark                                                 65

Thanks, Claude














Christian Konstmann Autzen

Hi Claude

Take a look at opslag 188 in Skærbæk parish, the last one at the right side, year 1718 - it seems to be a Jesper Nielsen in .... that is his father.

The place could be "Wester Gesing" or "Øster Gesing".

Faddere: Hans Thomsen i Gesing, Henning Andersen, Thomas Toft's (Toftes) i Hjemsted, Niels Hansen Tønder, Jes ... i Skærbæk, Christen Jensen's datter (?) i Hjemsted, Karen ...kone i Melby (?), Karen Pedersdatter ..., Dorteh Nielsdatter ....

Sorry, I can't do it better.

Greetings - and Merry Christmas to you
Christian
Min slægt: Autzen, Konstmann, Nansen, Hegelund, Sønberg, Matzen, Schmidt, Kruse, Wolf. Min hustru's slægt: Mærsk, Fogh, Møller, Hark, Lund, Aaskou, Blom, Dethlefsen, Beyer, Troels Winther.

Ole Westermann

Hi Christian

It is at ops.189 bottom right, and the father of Peder is Ivar Nielsen.

And looking in the register for Skærbæk
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=237152#237152,45124739
reveal no Peder Jespersen born there around that time.
And PJ and Anna Pedersdatter were not married there either.

mvh Ole

Christian Konstmann Autzen

Hi Ole

Thank you for referring to this book - which I did not know about. I am born in Skærbæk parish - and thus have family in this parish, and have therefore reopened the church book a number of times. Nice to refer to a book that I did not know about.

PS: The book does not contain all the people in the parish from that period.

Greetings
Christian
Min slægt: Autzen, Konstmann, Nansen, Hegelund, Sønberg, Matzen, Schmidt, Kruse, Wolf. Min hustru's slægt: Mærsk, Fogh, Møller, Hark, Lund, Aaskou, Blom, Dethlefsen, Beyer, Troels Winther.


Christian Konstmann Autzen

Hi Claude

Here is something of interest for you - as a PDF fil, and what you asked for.

You just have to download it. It's in danish, but you can use google translate to translete it  into english.

Peder Jespersen seems to be born in the parish af Rejsby, Tønder amt. The mother of Anna Pedersdatter is Else Nielsdatter, born in Havervad in the parish of Brøns, Tønder amt.

Peder Jespersen and Else Nielsdatter was married in Brøns parish 1767, opslag 213.

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=201153#201153,38098162

The father of Else Nielsdatter is Niels Hansen in Havervad; I have not been looking for his wife etc.

Greetings from Denmark

Christian

[vedhæfting slettet af admin]
Min slægt: Autzen, Konstmann, Nansen, Hegelund, Sønberg, Matzen, Schmidt, Kruse, Wolf. Min hustru's slægt: Mærsk, Fogh, Møller, Hark, Lund, Aaskou, Blom, Dethlefsen, Beyer, Troels Winther.

Christian Konstmann Autzen

Hi Claude

I know that you could have problems by downloading a PDF fil. Therefore I put it in here for you.


Samtlige personer i husstanden
Tønder, Hviding, Skærbæk, Dorfs Ostergasse, , 5, FT-1803, C2845
Navn:    Alder:    Status:    Stilling i familien:    Erhverv:    Fødested:
Willatz Petersen     38     Verheir.     Hausvat.     Hufener      
Anna Peters     34     Verheir.     dessen Frau           
Peter Jespersen Willassen     9          Kinder           
Hans Christophersen Willassen     2          Kinder           
Karen Kristens     15          Brudertochter des Hausvaters     = daugther of Willads Pedersens brother      
Hans Christophersen     55     Verheir.     Eltern des Vaters     Abnahmeleute     (= stepfather of Anna Pedersdatter) 
Else Nielses     61     Verheir.     Eltern des Vaters     Abnahmeleute      (= mother af Anna Pedersdatter)
Anders Martinsen     24     Unverheir.     Dienstboten  = employee         
Maria Hanses     31     Unverheir.     Dienstboten  = employeee
Marina Peters     23     Unverheir.     Schwester der Frau  (= sister of Anna Pedersdatter, Maren or Marina, the same)         
Thomas Hansen     80  Abnahmeleute  = maybe the owner of the farm before Peder Jespersen

Peder Jespersen will surely have taken over the farm in Øster Gasse from Thomas Hansen.

Anna Pedersdatter and Peder Jespersen will probably have more children than the 4 I have got here.

If you look at google maps you will see, that Rejsby is located about 10 km north of Skærbæk, and Brøns is located in betwinn Skærbæk and Rejsby. Øster Gasse is located about 3 km south-east of Skærbæk.

Greetings
Christian




1.   Hans Christophersen Willadsen, født 18. juni 1801 i Øster Gasse, Skærbæk sogn, Tønder amt, opslag 113, døbt 18. juni 1801 ved hjemmedåb.


Forældre/parents

2.   Willads Pedersen Høm, født 28. april 1766 i Høm, Seem sogn, Ribe amt, opslag 24, døbt 28. april 1766 ved hjemmedåb af jordemoderen Karen Hanskone af Fiersted.  Han blev gift med Anna Pedersdatter.

            Børn:

            i   Peder Jespersen Høhm, født maj 1794 i Øster Gasse, Skærbæk sogn, Tønder amt, opslag 98, døbt 11. maj 1794.

            ii   Peder Pedersen Høhm, født februar/marts 1796 i Øster Gasse, Skærbæk sogn, Tønder amt, opslag 102, døbt 6. marts 1796, død i (død som barn .- dead as baby).

            iii   Else Cathrine Willadsdatter, født oktober 1797 i Øster Gasse, Skærbæk sogn, Tønder amt, opslag 104, døbt 8. oktober 1797.

        1.   iv   Hans Christophersen Willadsen, født 18. juni 1801 i Øster Gasse, Skæræbk sogn, Tønder amt, opslag 113, døbt 18. juni 1801 ved hjemmedåb.

3.   Anna Pedersdatter, født juni 1769 i Øster Gasse, Skærbæk sogn, Tønder amt, opslag 208, døbt 23. juni 1769, død 15. november 1831 i Øster Gasse, Skærbæk sogn, opslag - 62 år gammel, konfirmeret 15. april 1787 i Skærbæk kirke, opslag 60 - 17 år gammel.


Bedsteforældre/grandparents

4.   Peder Pedersen.  Han blev gift med Karen.

            Børn:

        2.   i   Willads Pedersen Høm, født 28. april 1766 i Høm, Seem sogn, Ribe amt, opslag 24, døbt 28. april 1766 ved hjemmedåb af jordemoderen Karen Hanskone af Fiersted.  Han blev gift med Anna Pedersdatter.

5.   Karen.

6.   Peder Jespersen, født ca. 1719 i Rejsby sogn, Tønder amt, død juni 1784 i Øster Gasse, Skærbæk sogn, opslag 38 - 65 år gammel, begravet 23. juni 1784.  Han blev gift med Else Nielsdatter.

            Børn:

        3.   i   Anna Pedersdatter, født juni 1769 i Øster Gasse, Skærbæk sogn, Tønder amt, opslag 208, døbt 23. juni 1769, død 15. november 1831 i Øster Gasse, Skærbæk sogn, opslag - 62 år gammel, konfirmeret 15. april 1787 i Skærbæk kirke, opslag 60 - 17 år gammel.  Hun blev gift med Willads Pedersen Høm.

            ii   Margrethe Pedersdatter, født september 1772 i Øster Gasse, Skærbæk sogn, Tønder amt, opslag 214, døbt 27. september 1772, konfirmeret 30. marts 1788 i Skærbæk kirke, opslag 60 - 15 år gammel.

            iii   Anne Marie Pedersdatter, født januar 1776 i Øster Gasse, Skærbæk sogn, Tønder amt, opslag 218, døbt 28. januar 1776, konfirmeret 15. april 1792 i Skærbæk kirke, opslag 60 - 16 år gammel.

            iv   Maren Pedersdatter, født juli/aug 1780 i Øster Gasse, Skærbæk sogn, Tønder amt, opslag 69, døbt 6. august 1780.

7.   Else Nielsdatter, født februar 1742 i Havervad, Brøns sogn, Tønder amt, opslag 53, nr. 7, døbt 11. februar 1742, død april 1809 i Øster Gasse, Skærbæk sogn, opslag 53 - 67 år gammel, begravet 3. maj 1809.  Hun blev gift med (1) Peder Jespersen, født ca. 1719 i Rejsby sogn, Tønder amt, død juni 1784 i Øster Gasse, Skærbæk sogn, opslag 38 - 65 år gammel, begravet 23. juni 1784.  Hun blev gift den 25. juni 1785, Skærbæk opslag 9, med (2) Hans Christophersen, født ca. 1748 i Gånsager, Vodder sogn, Tønder amt, død april 1809 i Øster Gasse, Skærbæk sogn, opslag 53 - 63 år gammel, begravet 3. maj 1809.


Oldeforældre/great-grandparents

14.   Niels Hansen.

            Børn:

        7.   i   Else Nielsdatter, født februar 1742 i Havervad, Brøns sogn, Tønder amt, opslag 53, nr. 7, døbt 11. februar 1742, død april 1809 i Øster Gasse, Skærbæk sogn, opslag 53 - 67 år gammel, begravet 3. maj 1809.  Hun blev gift med (1) Peder Jespersen.  Hun blev gift med (2) Hans Christophersen.
Min slægt: Autzen, Konstmann, Nansen, Hegelund, Sønberg, Matzen, Schmidt, Kruse, Wolf. Min hustru's slægt: Mærsk, Fogh, Møller, Hark, Lund, Aaskou, Blom, Dethlefsen, Beyer, Troels Winther.

Christian Konstmann Autzen

I have been looking more about Niels Hansen - but it could be wrong (?).

Niels Hansen baptized 13. juni 1717, Syndernæs, Brøns parish opslag 28, no. 10, burried 12. februar 1775, Havervad, Brøns parish, opslag 182 - 58 years old. Married "Maren", who was burried 29. December, 1765, Havervad, Brøns parish, opslag 178 - 68 years old. This Maren could be the wrong one.

Parents of Niels was:  Hans Nielsen, born in Vester Vedsted parish, Ribe amt, and Karen Nielsdatter, born in Syndernæs in Brøns parish, married 29. juni 1713 in Brøns opslag 200 - trolovelsesdagen (engagement). Niels was the 4th child - the older children before him was all called Mette - twins born in 1714 and both died the same year; Mette born in 1715.

Peder Jespersen was born in Rejsby parish (about 1719), no church book from that time. His father probaply dead before 1741, where the first church book for Rejsby starts.

Greetings
Christian
Min slægt: Autzen, Konstmann, Nansen, Hegelund, Sønberg, Matzen, Schmidt, Kruse, Wolf. Min hustru's slægt: Mærsk, Fogh, Møller, Hark, Lund, Aaskou, Blom, Dethlefsen, Beyer, Troels Winther.

Claude Anders Hanson

Thanks Christian - for all of your extensive work and help.  I actually read and used the information the day after  you added your comments, however, I had a bad experience (my ignorance and my fault) and have been busy reconstructing all the generations I lost.  But, I do want you to know how much I appreciate your help!  Claude

Christian Konstmann Autzen

Hi Claude

I hope the information was ok.

You must keep in mind that in the old days there were a lot of traffic from north to south and south to the north alonge the west cost of Jylland/Jutland. This is due to cattle exports to Germany, which was then shipped via ports in Ribe and south on. And some of these cattle drivers then found their wives along the way. This cattle export went back to the 1100/1200 century. Around year 1600 I have seen that there were more than 100 shippings a year from alone Ribe.

There were 2 roades - one on the eats side and then the one on the west side of Jylland/Jutland. The road on the west side was going from north via Ribe and south to Tønder, and also through Gasse in the parish of Skærbæk to Døstrup. There is a map from year 1650 showing the road.

On the way back the ships had "tufsten" ("tufstone" ?) on board to south Denmark. Stonebricks from the Rhine river area, used to bild churches in the time from year 1150 to 1200.

I've seen that you also had ancestors in Vilslev, it also had my wife's mother, but there is no connection.

Greetings
Christian
Min slægt: Autzen, Konstmann, Nansen, Hegelund, Sønberg, Matzen, Schmidt, Kruse, Wolf. Min hustru's slægt: Mærsk, Fogh, Møller, Hark, Lund, Aaskou, Blom, Dethlefsen, Beyer, Troels Winther.

Claude Anders Hanson

Thanks again.  I love learning new things.  I visited Ribe with my daughter in May....we both loved that entire area.  First time I'd been able to visit the country of my Hanson heratige...and at age 83 it was about time!!!   Didn't know about the cattle shipping and also had wondered where that stone  they built some of the churches with was from.  Every day I try to learn something new.... and you made that easy today!