A countess and a Kongelig Livgarde eloped! Fable or truth??

[Susanne Larson]

So one of my more distant relatives has this up on their tree. And of course I was intrigued. But it may be a complete fable so dont want any time spent - but if you could quickly help with any places to look, I would appreciate it.  Details:

Emilie Hansen, f 27 March 1844 Tollose Sjaelland
"Though oral history was said to be the daughter of Prince William of Denmark who became King Christian 1X In 1863. (called The Father-In-Law Of Europe As His Children were everywhere)". Her mother lived at Amelieborg Palace.

Niels Jensen, f 18 May 1845
She Was a Countess In the Palace and met Nels while he was a member of Den Kongelite Livgarde or The Kings Royal Guard.

Married 1868.
Son Rasmus Christian born 1868.

Emigrated to USA in 1873.

Mange tak!

Susanne

[Inger Toudal]

Emilie Hansen, born out of wedlock 21 Mar. 1844. Mother Lovise Olsdatter, staying with Niels Iversen in Tølløse. Father Emilius Nielsen, Tølløsegaard:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17119409#158056,26540322 - No 3

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17119405#206376,39178262 - No 6

Could be the father:

Holbæk, Merløse, Tølløse, Merløse, Tølløse, Tølløse by, en gaard, Tølløsegaard, 1, FT-1845, C2466
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:     Birth place:
Christian Friderik Zeuthen     51     Gift            Baron, hofjægermester ? af D.      Kjøbenhavn  
Sophie Hedvig Zeuthen     35     Gift            Baronesse      Frydendal ?,  
Ludvig Møller     60     Ugift            Kammertjener      Knie  
Jens Christian Jensen     32     Ugift            tjener      Vester lille sogn, Viborg amt.  
Anne Maria Marinussen     44     Ugift            ??      Kjøbenhavn  
Hans Peter Larsen     32     Ugift            Kudsk      Ravn..?? sogn, på Møen  
Lars Nielsen     26     Ugift            staldkarl      Grandløse sogn, Holbæk amt  
Hans Hansen     30     Ugift            vægter      Uggerløse, Holbæk amt  
Georg Vilhelm Knipschildt     26     Ugift            gartner      Karise sogn, Præstø amt  
Peter Emilius Nielsen     22     Ugift            havekarl      Kjøbenhavn
- - - - - - - - - -

- and perhaps the mother:

Holbæk, Merløse, Tølløse, Tølløsegaard, Tølløsegaard, 1, FT-1840, B8604
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:     
Christen Frederik Zeuthen     46     Gift            Hofjægermester, eier af gaarden med tilhørende godser??        
Sophie Hedevig Zeuthen     29     Gift            Hans kone        
Amalie Olsen     46     Gift            Huusjomfrue        
Justine Augusta Jacobsen     26     Ugift            Syejomfrue        
Albertine Larsine Jacobsen     25     Ugift            Kammerjomfrue        
Christine Ottesdatter     25     Ugift            Tjenestepiger        
Mette Ottesdatter     24     Ugift            Tjenestepiger        
Lovise Olsdatter     25     Ugift            Tjenestepiger  
- - - - - - - - - -

Holbæk, Merløse, Tølløse, Tølløse By, Tølløsegaard, 1 F1, FT-1850, C7538
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:     Birth place:
Baron Christian Frederik Zeuthen     56     Gift            Kammerherre, Godsejer      Kjøbenhavn  
Baronesse Sophie Hedevig Zeuthen     40     Gift            Hans Kone      Frederiksdal  
Greve William Schulin     39     Gift            Jægermester, Inspektør ved det Kongelige Gods Droge i Holsten      Do (Frederiksdal)  
Grevinde Ida Augusta Schulin     32     Gift            Hans Kone      Kjøbenhavn  
Caroline Amalie Schulin     4     Ugift            Deres Børn      Hamborg  
Sophie Hedevig Schulin     2     Ugift            Deres Børn      Kjøbenhavn  
Peter Frederik Steenmann??     6     Ugift            Børn af Kammerherre Oberstlieutenant Steenmann      Do (Kjøbenhavn)  
Sigismund Sophie Steenmann     8     Ugift            Børn af Kammerherre Oberstlieutenant Steenmann      Do (Kjøbenhavn)  
Henriette de Vos     57     Ugift            Opdragerinde      Hamborg  
Ludvig Møller     70     Ugift            Kammertjener      Holsteen  
Emil Gottschild Ludvig Nærum     33     Ugift            Tjener      Nærum  
Hans Pedersen     28     Ugift            Vægter      Tølløse  
Jacobine Christensen     30     Ugift            Kammejomfrue      Kjøbenhavn  
Wilhelmine Johansen     19     Ugift            Husjomfrue      Frederiksdal  
Karen Marie Erfurt     33     Ugift            Stuepige      Holbek  
Lovise Olsen     35     Ugift            Husholderske      Meerløse  
- - - - - - - - - -

Emilie as foster-child:

Holbæk, Merløse, Tølløse, Merløse, Tølløse, Nørre Vallingerød bye, en gaard, 103, FT-1845, C2466
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:     Birth place:
Rasmus Rasmussen     40     Gift            Gaardmand      Her i sognet  
Ane Dorthe Nielsdatter     38     Gift            hans kone      Simmerup sogn ??, Holbæk amt  
Niels Rasmussen     10     Ugift            deres børn      Her i sognet  
Ane Rasmussen     7     Ugift            deres børn      Her i sognet  
Emilie Hansen     1     Ugift            pleiebarn      Her i sognet  
Birthe Marie Pedersdatter     19     Ugift            Tjenestefolk      Tostrup, Holbæk amt  
Frederik Konrad Sørensen     23     Ugift            Tjenestefolk      Her i sognet  

Confirmation 1858: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17119409#158056,26540405 - No 7

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17119405#206376,39178348 - No 7
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Rasmus Christian Jensen, born out of wedlock 14 Oct. 1868. Mother Emilie Hansen, staying with Hans Nielsen. Father Niels Jensen in military service:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17119409#158057,26540707 - No 15

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17119405#206377,39178659 - No 15

Parents married 28 Nov. 1868 in Tølløse (the same day their son was baptized):

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17119409#158059,26540988 - No 11

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17119405#206380,39178941 - No 12

For reference: https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Denmark_Genealogy

Best regards,
Inger Toudal

[Susanne Larson]

Ok that is amazing! Thank you so much. What fun.

I didn't know if worth looking for. Perhaps yes?

Sadly it is bedtime where I live in Australia. And tomorrow is work. But I am keen to learn more!

Mange tak (I have a little Danish) btw.

Susanne

[Susanne Larson]

Thanks again. However I am really struggling to read the marriage records in particular.  Did you come to any conclusions? Thanks.

[Inger Toudal]

The marriage record:

Bachelor Niels Jensen,
23 years, of Meerløse, To-
strup Sogn [= Store Taastrup/Tåstrup parish].

Unmarried Emilie Han-
sen, 22 years, in Nørreval-
lingrød [village in Tølløse parish].

Sponsors/Witnesses:
Tenant Hans Jør-
gensen in Meerløse,
Tostrup Sogn, and
farmer Hans Nielsen
in Nørrevallingrød.

Nov. 28 [1868] in the church.

In the Hovedministerialbog, the age of the groom is 23½ years, the bride 22½ years (NB: at the birth in October, she's 25 y!).

This is the "palace" where Emilie's mother was working as a maid, and later as housekeeper, and her father as assistant to the gardener:
https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%B8ll%C3%B8se_Slot

It seems Emilie Hansen met farmhand Niels Jensen, while he was doing his military service, or just before he joined the army.

Niels Jensen born 18 May 1845 in Tølløse: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17119409#158056,26540280 - No 13

Holbæk, Merløse, Store Taastrup, Mærløse By, Tostrup Skoledistrict, Et Huus F1, 52, FT-1850, C6351
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:     Birth place:
Jens Hendrik Hansen     36     Gift            Arbeidsmand, Huusfader      Tølløse Sogn, Holbeks Amt  
Ane Nielsen     33     Gift            hans Kone      Do (Tølløse Sogn, Holbeks Amt))
Ane Jensen     10     Ugift            Deres Børn      Do (Tølløse Sogn, Holbeks Amt))  
Niels Jensen     5     Ugift            Deres Børn      Do (Tølløse Sogn, Holbeks Amt))
Hans Jensen     1     Ugift            Deres Børn      Her i Sognet (Store Taastrup, Holbæk Amt)

Lovise Olsdatter born 14 Sep. 1815 in Store Tåstrup: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17118831#156935,26316203 - No 2
- parents: shoemaker Ole Hansen and wife Ane(?) Magrethe Friis(?).

Venlig hilsen
Inger

[Susanne Larson]

Brilliant.  So I think we can guess what happened.

Emilie got pregnant with the visiting Prince William, with the head of the house Baron Christian Frederik Schulin-Zeuthen. with her future husband - or with anyone really.

She then got married and had the baby (at the same time) and left the country four years later.

But she was never a countess - even though she may have married a dashing young military man.

But she gave her relatives a good story which I am sure they have enjoyed.

Now the moral question - do I tell them??

Or do I just quietly put this information in my notes?

We all want to be princesses  . . . .

Susanne

[Inger Toudal]

Difficult question.....

A suggestion for Emilie's alleged father:

København, København (Staden), Sankt Annæ Vester Kvarter, , Rosengade 446, Kielderen til venster, 13, FT-1834, C5734
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation: 
Jens Peter Nielsen     37     Gift            Reserve Wægter       
Ellen Sophie Rønne     38     Gift            hans Kone       
Wilhelm Emilius Nielsen     10     Ugift            deres Søn       
Luvig Waltemark Nielsen     8     Ugift            deres Søn       
Jenssine Nielsen     1     Ugift            deres Datter       
Ane Elisebeth Hansen     36     Ugift            gaaer hos en Klæde Kræmmer Hansen, logerende 

København, København (Staden), Christianshavn Kvarter, Dronningensgade, et Huus No 233, 2. sal, 5, FT-1840, C9569
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation: 
Jens Nielsen     42     Gift            Nattevægter paa Gade       
Ellen Sophie Rønne     45     Gift            hans Kone       
Peter Wilhelm Emil Nielsen     17     Ugift            deres Søn       
Johan Ludvig Nielsen     13     Ugift            deres Søn       
Jensine Gerogine Nielsen     6     Ugift            deres Datter       
Ida Emilie Nielsen     2     Ugift            Nielsens datter 

Holbæk, Merløse, Tølløse, Nørre Vallenderød Skoledistrikt, Nørre Vallenderød, En Gaard, 120, FT-1860, D5583
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:     Birth place:
Rasmus Rasmussen     55     Gift      Husfader. Gaardmand            Tølløse Sogn, Holbæk Amt 
Ane Dorthea Nielsen     53     Gift      Hans Kone            Kirke Sonnerup Sogn, Roskilde Amt 
Niels Rasmussen     25     Ugift      Deres Barn            Tølløse Sogn, Holbæk Amt 
Karen Marie Rasmussen     11     Ugift      Deres Barn            Tølløse Sogn, Holbæk Amt 
Emilie Hansen     16     Ugift      Plejebarn            Tølløse Sogn, Holbæk Amt 
Jens Peder Hansen     13     Ugift      Plejebarn            Holbæk 
Niels Hansen     19     Ugift      Tjenestekarl            Kirke Sonnerup Sogn, Roskilde Amt 
Birthe Kirstine Nielsen     58     Ugift      Almisselem            Kirke Sonnerup Sogn, Roskilde Amt

The explanation for Emilie's surname Hansen could be that her maternal grandfather was Ole Hansen.

Venlig hilsen 
Inger