interpreting lægdsruller, 1823-1829, for Mikkel Pedersen

[Lisa Petersen]

Hi,

I have found a Mikkel Pedersen in the Nordby on Fanø lægdsruller, arriving in 1823 and leaving in 1829.  Here are my transcriptions (please correct me if I'm wrong) and the links:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=305456#305456,62625562
1823, tilgangsliste, lægd 103, J194, Mikkel Petersen, fødested Søndernis?, 37 aar, opholdsted Odden, fra Haderslev amt 5 nr.156 (plus more I can't read)

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=305454#305454,62624819
1824, lægdsseddel, lægd 103, 174, s. Mikkel Petersen, f. Peder Mikkelsen ei anmeldt, fødested Synderriis?, 38 aar (plus some notes)

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=305457#305457,62626029
1827, lægdsseddel, lægd 103, 155, s. Mikkel Petersen, f. ei anmeldt, fødested Synderriis?, 41 aar, Afg 1829 til R R 58 L (and some notes)

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=305456#305456,62625657
1829, afgangsliste, lægd 103, 155, s. Mikkel Pedersen, f. ei anmeldt, fødested Sÿndernes?, 41 aar, Afgivet til Ribe Amt 58 Lægd.....


Questions...

1.  Is his birth place Søndernæs or some other place?  I could not find him baptized in the Brøns sogn, Tønder amt, church books where Søndernæs is located.

2.  Is it likely that Peder Mikkelsen is his father's name?  Why would they cross out the father's name and say it is not reported?

3.  Where is Haderslev Amt lægd 5?

4.  Am I correctly reading that he went to Ribe lægd 58?  I can't find him in Ribe lægd 58, on the 1828 or 1829 tilgangsliste or 1830 hovedliste. 


I need to research this man further to prove he is the same Mikkel Pedersen who fathered a child born in 1825 in Nordby sogn on Fanø.

Thanks very much,

Lisa Petersen
near Washington, D.C.

[Ole Westermann]

Hi Lisa

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=167013#167013,28043602
11. Søren Svendsen born July 1825 born out of wedlock
Parents: Mikkel Pedersen journeyman miller in Hoe Mill and
              Barbara Marie Sørensdatter at Odden
They were probably not married, but just lived together.
And I don't think, that MP was the father of Søren Svendsen.
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Ribe, Skast, Nordby, Odden 105 Lægd, et Huus som hører til Skolen, 68, FT-1834, C6856
Barbara Marie Sørensdr    40     Ugift          nyder Understøttelse af Fattigvæsenet.      
Hans Sørensen     12     Ugift          } hendes Børn      
Søren Svendsen     9     Ugift          } hendes Børn      
Christiane Augustine Bjerregaard     1     Ugift          } hendes Børn 
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1823                               (f.ca 1786)
J194 - Mikkel Petersen, fødested Sønderris, 37 aar, opholdsted Odden
           fra Haderslev amt 5 L Pat No 156 - søvant 2 Togter*
           Mød. Sø.? 1824 for at modtage Patent herfra
                                                                                     *inured to the sea 2 cruises
1824
J194 - 174  Synderriis   38 (i) 1824  Søvant, 2 Togter Pt No 1620

1827
174 -155 Synderriis   41 (like above) + meldt syg efter Attest (announced sick acc. to certificate)

1829
174 - 155  Syndernes  41  Afgivet til Ribe Amt 58 Lægd* efter vedfølgende med begge No
                  betegnede Følgeseddel.                             *Henne sogn
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MP probably didn't know the name of his father.
He may have been transfered to the searolls in lægd 58, and they are not online.
He can't be found in the 1834 census and in the arrival lists in the church records.
Did he go to sea and 'disappeared' there?

mvh Ole

[John Damm Sørensen]

Hi Lisa,

Sønderris north of Esbjerg is part of the Guldager Parish, but I didn't find him there either.

Best
John

[Lisa Petersen]

Thanks for the replies, Ole and John.

I would not expect a møllersvend to want to go to sea, but maybe he did to get away from the woman.   

And of course it is possible he went to sea and disappeared.  He wouldn't be the first man to do that!

I was excited to find this Mikkel Pedersen on the lægdsruller in Nordby at the right time for conception, but the entries don't contain information like occupation that I can use to match him with the father.  You may be right that he is not the father of Søren Svendsen.

I did find a møllesvend Michel Petersen on FT-1834 in Ribe, who is a better possibility, but again, not sure he is the father.

1834 Ribe, Ribe, Ribe Købstad, Ribe Købstad, Ribe Vejrmølle, 496,
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=4444#4444,94007
Rasmus Nielsen  68  Gift  Snedkermester  
Johanne Marie Poulsdatter  44  Gift  Hans Kone  
Dorthea Rasmusdatter  10  Ugift  Deres Datter  
Rasmus Nielsen  8  Ugift  Deres Søn  
Poul Rasmussen Nielsen  7  Ugift  Deres Søn  
Anne Marie Nielsen  6  Ugift  Deres Datter  
Werner Jaspar Andreas Rasmussen  4  Ugift  Deres Søn  
Johann Ludvig Rasmussen  2  Ugift  Deres Søn  
Birgite Petersen  21  Ugift  Tjenestepige  
Michel Petersen  54  Ugift  Møllesvend  

Ah, Sønderris (with one i) in Guldager sogn.  I think I will look a little bit there.

Thanks again for the help.

Lisa P.