Jørgen Jensen, f. ca. 1766-død 1848 i Rugbjerg, Hjørring Amt.

[Karin Andersen]

Hej  

Jeg forsøger at hjælpe en amerikaner med at finde fødested og forældre til Jørgen Jensen. Kan han muligvis findes i lægdsrullen? (som jeg endnu ikke har lært at bruge)

En søgning på Hjørring Amt, Vennebjerg H. og Jørgen Jensen giver 5 hits bl.a. disse: https://www.danishfamilysearch.dk/search/

Hjørring / Vennebjerg / Uggerby sogn / Folketællinger / 1787 / Opslag Nr. 12
HusstandenJens Chrestensen Mand 46 1741 Gift Husbonde Bonde og GaardBeboer
Kirsten Hansdatter Kvinde 36 1751 Gift Hans kone
Chresten Jensen Mand 8 1779 Ugift Deres barn
Jens Jensen Mand 6 1781 Ugift Deres barn
Niels Jensen Mand 3 1784 Ugift Tjenestefolk Tjenestefolk
Jørgen Jensen Mand 21 1766 Ugift Tjenestefolk Tjenestefolk
Johanne Chrestensdatter Kvinde 22 1765 Ugift Tjenestefolk Tjenestefolk

Hjørring / Vennebjerg / Rubjerg sogn / Folketællinger / 1845 / Opslag Nr. 6
Jens Nielsen Mand 46 1799 Gift Husmand, og slagter Husmand og Slagter
Ane Olesdatter Kvinde 44 1801 Gift Hans kone
Niels Olesen Jensen Mand 15 1830 Ugift Deres barn
Jens Peter Jensen Mand 11 1834 Ugift Deres barn
Ane Cathrine Jensdatter Kvinde 7 1838 Ugift Deres barn
Jørgen Jensen Mand 80 1765 Gift Aftægtsmand
Maren Nielsdatter Kvinde 64 1781 Gift Hans hustru
https://www.danishfamilysearch.dk/search

Jørgen Jensen dør d. 2. aug. 1848 i Rugbjerg sogn. 82 år gl.
https://www.danishfamilysearch.dk/churchbook/sogn430/churchlisting135513/opslag14685222

Venligst  

Karin

[Britta Hansen]

Hej Karin

Dine to første links til Danish Family Search viser blot søgebilledet.

Jørgen Jensen, som du viser i FT1845 er født i Tornby
Hjørring, Vennebjerg, Rubjerg, Ruberg Bye, Et huus, 3, FT-1845, B5301
Navn:    Alder:    Status:    Stilling i familien:    Erhverv:    Fødested:
Jens Nielsen     46     Gift          Huusmand og slagter     Heri sognet  
Ane Olesdatter     44     Gift          Hans kone     Stenum sogn Hjørring amt  
Niels Olesen Jensen     15     Ugift          Deres børn     Heri sognet  
Jens Peter Jensen     11     Ugift          Deres børn     Heri sognet  
Ane Cathrine Jensdatter     7     Ugift          Deres børn     Heri sognet  
Jørgen Jensen     80     Gift          Aftægtsmand     Tornby sogn Hjørring amt  
Maren Nielsdatter     64     Gift          Hans hustru     Heri sognet  

Hvorfor tror du, at det er den Jørgen Jensen, vi skal have fat i? Hvem er de fire andre, du har fundet?
Hvad er dine søgekriterier til de fem hits?

I lægdsrullerne kan du starte med at forsøge at finde ham i Tornby
Åstrup 1789 Hovedrulle - lægd 12
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#18201,1032141
men inden du/vi begynder på dette, vil det være en god ide, hvis du oplyste lidt flere data om ham: børn, hvor er de født og ægtefælle/r, så vi har lidt mere konkret at forholde os til. Det er sikkert muligt at finde ham i lægdsrullerne frem til ca 1801, men vi skal vide, hvor han har opholdt sig (ca.)

[Britta Hansen]

Uggerby lægd 5 starter her:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#18201,1032089

[Britta Hansen]

Her er Jørgen Jensen i lægdsrullen for Hjørring – Skt. Olai landsogn 1789-1793 3. jy. dist. Sejlstrup a. lægd 15
Hovedrullen 1793 15_140
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#18279,1057228 højre side nederst
Fader Jens Nielsen, født i Tornby, alder 25.

Hjørring 7.10.1792 vies Jørgen Jensen og Kirsten Sørensdatter
Name   Jorgen Jensen
Spouse's Name   Kirsten Sorensdr Krag
Event Date    07 Oct 1792
Event Place   Sankt Olai,Hjorring,Denmark
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=164083#164083,27548469 - højre side næstsidste par
Jens Nielsen af Tornby er forlover

Hjørring, Vennebjerg, Sankt Olai, Schibsbye, , 27, FT-1801, B8401
Navn:    Alder:    Status:    Stilling i familien:    Erhverv:    Fødested:
Jørgen Jensen     34    Gift     Mand     Huusmand med Jord       
Kirsten Sørensdatter     29     Gift     hans Kone            
Anne Jørgensdatter     4     Ugift     deres Barn            
Kirsten Jørgensdatter     2     Ugift     deres Barn          

[Cyndilou]

HI, I'm not sure if this will post in the right place --- I'm new to this.  I am the person Karin Andersen started this thread for.  Thank you Karin.  
I wanted to post everything I already know about Jørgen Jensen.  I have alot, just not his birthdate and am not sure of his mother and which Jens Nielsen is his father.  

Jørgen Jensen son of Jens Nielsen born in 1766? In Tornby  not sure of wife.  I've found at least TWO Jens Nielsen's in the same area one born 1727 and one 1737.  Which one is my Jørgen's father?

1766 – birth Tornby – missing pages in Tornby parish records

since he marries in Sankt Olai in 1792 maybe he was in Sankt Olai for his confirmation.  I looked through the confirmations in ddd.dda.dk for Sankt Olai and didn't see him there either unless it was one of the names I couldn't read.  https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17123820#164082,27548362  

1789 Jørgen Jensen his brothers and father in the military roll, 1789 in Tornby parish. https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#18201,1032148
(I don't understand these rolls or how to follow them.  But someone found this page for me that shows: Jens Nielsen is the father of four sons all born in Tornby. Niels is 25, Jorgen is 24, Michel is 22, Peder is 20. The sons are all living in different villages. Jørgen is living in Schibsbye, Sankt Olai)

1792 Jorgen Jensen and Kirsten Sorensdatter Marriage Sankt Olai, Hjorring
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17123820#164083,27548469


1801 Census Record in Sankt Olai:
http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=26737&side=14&height=731   shows him to be 34

1823  1st wife Kirsten Sorensdatter died Nov 21 1823 Rubjerg 51 years old (shows Jørgen Jensen of Sortfelt in Rubjerg) http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=166797&side=151

1834 Rubjerg Census shows Jorgen Jensen Sort – the name Sort shows up in other records as well. Here he is married to a Maren Nielsdatter with a son Jens Christian Christensen (her son?) shows Jørgen to be 68

1845 Census in Rubjerg  
Jørgen Jensen & Maren Nielsdatter
shows Jorgen from Tornby 80 years old 3rd family under Ruberg in Jens Nielsen household http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=7612&side=6

1848 This is a death record I found attached to him on familysearch....I'm not sure it is the right Jørgen Jensen.  I assume it is him, because it's in the same town he was living in.  
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-9944-29HM-9?i=127&cc=2078555  #7


CHILDREN:
1793 oct 6  Birth of son Soren Jorgensen in Sankt Olai https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17123820#164083,27548453


1796 Anne Jorgensdatter Jul 10 Sankt Olai
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17123820#164083,27548455

1798 Kirsten Jorgensdatter Nov 11 Sankt Olai
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17123820#164083,27548457

1801 Soren Jorgensen Mar 18 Sankt Olai
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17123820#164083,27548459

1803 Inger Marie Jorgensdatter Dec 20 1803 Rubjerg POSSIBLE record: beginning very bottom left side http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=166795&side=44

1807 Johanne Marie Jorgensen Feb 3 Rubjerg
http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=166795&side=48

1810 Jens Christian Jorgensen Feb 9 Rubjerg
http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=166795&side=52

1817 Zidsel Marie Jorgensdatter Oct 4 Rubjerg
http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=166797&side=53

Thanks to everyone willing to share your time in finding any additional information.  

[Britta Hansen]

Cyndi,
I obviously managed to find the same Jørgen Jensen that you already found on the background of Karin's insufficient information.
Could you please tell us if the person you and I found is your right man?

I've found at least TWO Jens Nielsen's in the same area one born 1727 and one 1737.  Which one is my Jørgen's father?

Could you please reveal data that you already found?

Probate Court records might give us clarification of relatives and family. I was not able to find any records of Jens Nielsen, Tornby

I looked into the Tornby church books and found:

1770 Tornby Jens Nielsen and Inger Nielsdatter son Peder
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=170601#170601,28645091 no. 9 left hand side first entry

1773 May 7,  Jens Nielsen and Kirsten Knudsdatter daughter Anne
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=170601#170601,28645093 right side - almost at the bottom

Peder might be the brother listed in the Military Levying Rolls.

Find any available data of Jens Nielsen's sons listed in the Rolls.

[Britta Hansen]

To be investigated:
Name   Jens Nielsen
Event Type   Probate
Event Date    10 Jul 1772
Event Place   Hjørring, Denmark
Event Place (Original)   , Hjørring, Denmark
Residence Place   Synderby Jetsmark
Spouse's Name   Inger Nielsdatter
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99FX-XFKM?i=290&cc=2026233

Name   Jens Nielsen
Spouse's Name   Inger Nielsdr
Event Date    27 Sep 1765
Event Place   Tornby,Hjorring,Denmark

[Karin Andersen]

Hi  

I see we can write in English.

Thanks for your info Britta and sorry for my "insufficient" informations.

However I thought I knew, you only had to know the whereabouts of a person in a certain year, in order to find him in the Lægdsrulle. Correct me if I am wrong.

I know Ken has quite a lot of info, but as it is on a Facebook forum, it is kind of hard to get an overview or to copy bits and pieces from here and there, so I was only looking for the Lægdsrulle info.

Sorry about the link to familysearch.dk. I realized it was not working, that´s why I wrote exactly what I searched for - but I didn´t get around to erase the link.

Kind Regards  

Karin

[Cyndilou]

I am thrill with the extra info already found.  Thank you Karin So much for helping me and guiding me to this wonderful forum.
Thank you Britta for helping me.

the two Jens Nielsen's I've found to be in the area my family is from and within the right age window are:
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid162295
Sankt Olai 1737

https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid168108
Tornby 1727


Finding the son, Peder, is huge!  I feel like he is the one!
the military rolls that Shari Duce, on facebook, found shows 4 sons all born in Tornby.  We have been at a loss because I've been looking for birth records for those sons between 1766 and 1769 and those parish records seem to be missing.  the 1770 very likely fits....depending on the date on the Military roll I guess.  
Shari usually can follow the young men throughout the rolls but she has been unable to find them on any other roll but this one:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#18201,1032148 right side 4 brothers - Jens Nielsen is the father of four sons all born in Tornby. Niels is 25, Jorgen is 24, Michel is 22, Peder is 20. The sons are all living in different villages.

We have also been unable to figure out what villages each of the brother's were in at the time of this roll.  If I knew that, I may be able to look for Jens Nielsen's death in each of those places since I couldn't find him in Tornby.  

Also, with this probate you found we know that Inger died in 1772.  Would July 10th be the death date or just a date they started probate after the death and how long after did they usually wait to begin probate?  

If she died in 1772 then Jens likely remarried.  Could we assume that he remarried Kirsten Knudsdatter:

although I think that this census might say this was their first marriage.  https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid168108
Just found the marriage of Jens Nielsen and Kirsten Knudsdatter in 1758https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=170601#170601,28645152  so the Jens in this record couldn't be the Jens whose spouse, Inger, died in 1765.  TWO different Jens.
this Kirsten is the one listed on familysearch-familytree as the mother of Jørgen but there is no evidence.  I'm leaning towards the Inger you found as being his mother if we can find some other evidence of her and the other 3 boys.

in your post you also have this event:
Is this info in the probate record?  Is this their marriage?  which if it is, would be perfect timing for the birth of a son sometime in 1766, Jørgen.    I clicked the link and see that it is an index to a probate.  Is there a way to see the full record of the probate? does it tell in the probate anything about children or how old her husband is?  Sorry, lots of questions.    
Thanks so much for your help.  Feeling hopeful, Cyndi

Name Jens Nielsen
Spouse's Name Inger Nielsdr
Event Date 27 Sep 1765
Event Place Tornby, Hjorring, Denmark

[Cyndilou]

I guess I shouldn't get too excited and just assume this Inger is the mother I've been looking for.  

I guess it is possible that the Jens Nielsen who married Kirstin Knudsdatter could still be the couple with the four sons on the military rolls.  
for Inger we've only found one son's record, Peder.  

Here is kirstin's death record.  I don't know how to find the probates but maybe you can help me with that and see if probate shows anything for her.  https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/churchbook/sogn435/churchlisting136962/opslag14902248  Nov 14 1814

thanks so much

[Cyndilou]

Is that probate record a record of Jens death or Inger's?

[Karin Andersen]

Hi  

I have been looking into betrothals in Tornby sogn and found these.

Tornby sogn. 1751. Fredagen d. 29. oct. ? ? Jens Nielsen af Hiøring og Maren Hansdatter af Rosedrup? trolovet. Forloveren fæstemandens fader Niels Hatmagers af Hiøring og fæstemøens farbroder Anders Christensen af Lystrup.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127176#170601,28645132
Tornby sogn. 1758. Dom 8. p. Trinit. Begr. Jens Nielsens hustru Karen Hansdatter af byen. 25 år? 5 mdr.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127176#170601,28645104

Tornby sogn. 1758. Fredagen d. 6. oct. blev Jens Nielsen Lohman og Kirsten Knudsdatter af Byen trolovet. Forlover Niels Louhman af Kiøbsted og Niels Kielsen af Byen.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127176#170601,28645134

Tornby sogn. 1759. Fredagen d. 19. oct. blev Jens Nielsen Plet her af Byen og Kirsten Pedersdatter af Kiøbsted trolovet. Forlovere var Laurs Plet af Kiøbsted og Anders Poulsen af Nørbye.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127176#170601,28645134

Tornby sogn. Tiirsdagen d. 19. Feb. blev Jens Nielsen og Inger Nielsdatter trolovede. Forlovere var Peder Jespersen og Christen Krag.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127176#170601,28645136

Tornby sogn. 1777. Dom 1 Adventus blev Jens Nielsen af Horne sogn og Enkekone Maren Olufsdatter trolovede. Forlover Michel Sørensen af Horne Sogn og Oluf Mouridsen.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127176#170601,28645139

It is a little early, but I would be a little excited about the betrothal between Jens Nielsen og Inger Nielsdatter. Jørgen do name a daughter Inger (Marie) and the name Krag is mentioned.

We need to look at the witnesses mentioned at the baptizems.

Kind Regard

Karin

The probate is for Jens Nielsen.

Cindi are you aware you kan ask to "Abonnér" on this topic. Go to the top of this side. Abowe my first question is a brown beam where you can press Abonnér. If you want to, you can get an e-mail telling you we have gotten an answer to this topic - even if it comes years from now.

[Cyndilou]

Thank you.  You are so kind to share your time and help me.  

I subscribed - Thank you.  I think I check this more than my email.

I will look at these marriages and look at witnesses at the baptisms of Jørgen's children.  That is one reason I was really doubting Kirsten as the mother....she never appears as a witness but Jens Nielsen does.

I don't think the probate record could be my Jens Nielsen... Jetsmark is such a long ways away from where my family is known to be.  Tornby, Rubjerg, Skt. Olai

I am assuming that it is a marriage record that Britta posted above with the Probate record.  
if it is then they were betrothed Feb 19th and married Sept 27.  I am excited about this one since the birth of a Peder was found in Tornby
with the parents Jens Nielsen and Inger Nielsdatter born in 1770 which (hopefully) is one of the four sons listed in the Military roll.

Thank you both so much for helping,
Cyndi

[Britta Hansen]

Probate records from Vendsyssel - source krabsen.dk

Godsskifter fra Vendsyssel
Kjærsgård in Tornby Parish
http://www.krabsen.dk/godsskifte/container.php?funktion=gods_pr_gods&godsnr=G016

[Britta Hansen]

I found the record from Rødslet Gods / Rødslet Estate - Vadum Parish via the source krabsen.dk
http://www.krabsen.dk/godsskifte/container.php?funktion=gods_seeknavn

RØDSLET i Vadum sogn
Jens Nielsen
Synderbye, Jetsmark
10 07 1772
pages 1100-1103
g.m. Inger Nielsdt
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=195607#195607,32745017
This is not your Jens Nielsen
a couple of children are mentioned 1 years old, 10 years old ......

[Cyndilou]

I don't see anything in the witnesses that match anything in any of the Betrothals.    

The Jens Nielsen and Inger Nielsdatter fits with a Peder Jensen whose birth we found in 1770 listing Jens and Inger as parents (one of 4 brother's in the military rolls)  and there is a Peder "Sort" as a witness for one of Jørgen's children so I'm kind of thinking he is Peder Nielson Sort.  And my Jørgen has "Sort" after his name in some records so – brothers?

"Krag" is another interesting name....first I found it after Jørgen's Wife's name in their marriage record.  But then in their Daughter, Anne Jorgensdatter's birth record it shows
Jørgen Jensen Krag – the Krag after HIS name instead of hers.  ??  


Jens Nielsen's son, Jørgen's marriage and children's records:

I'm listing just the witnesses so we can see if there is a connection with any of the betrothals you found.  
All translations copied below made possibly by wonderful people on the Danish facebook page.  

1792 MARRIAGE: Jorgen Jensen (there's no SORT after his name in this record)  and Kirsten Sorensdatter (has Krag after her name) Sankt Olai, Hjorring, Denmark
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17123820#164083,27548469
Forloverne:
Hans Mikkelsen af Schibsbye
Jens Nielsen af Tornbye

BIRTHS:

1793 Soren Jorgensen - Sankt Olai
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17123820#164083,27548453
Q: F: Ellen, Lars Mikkelsen's Daughter in Schibye
Mette Christensd :,  Jens Frostes Stifd. ibid (Stifd. = Place daughter = Stepdaughter)

M: F: Jens Christensen Post? ibidm
Jens Nielsen in Schibsbye
Peiter Mikkelsen,
Jens Frost

1796 Anne Jorgensdatter - Sankt Olai
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17123820#164083,27548455
Female witnesses:
Bodil Christensen wife of Hans Michelsen.
Christen Lassens daughter Helvig both from Schibsb(ye).

Male witnesses: Jens Nielsen fra Schibsbye,
Jørgen Sørensen ibidm (ibidem = from the same place).
Niels Christensen working for Christen Lassen.


1798 Kirsten Jorgensdatter - Sankt Olai
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17123820#164083,27548457
Female witnesses,
Ane Larsdatter, wife of a tailor,
and Kirsten Larsdatter

Male witnesses
Jens Nielsen of Hjørring,
Hans Mikkelsen of skibsby, and
Søren Larsen

1801 Soren Jorgensen - Sankt Olai
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17123820#164083,27548459
female witnesses:
Anne Jensdatter Hans Mickelsens h (hustru = wife) i Skibsbye,
Maren Jensdatter? ibi (=ibidem = same place)

Male witnesses:
Jens Nielsen ib.,
Søren Larsen (probably same as previous (Annes Baptizm) person Søren Lassen) og
Lars Christensen ib.

1803 Inger Marie Jorgensdatter - Rubjerg (Don't see SORT in this record)
http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=166795&side=44
Witnesses:
Christens bror
Peder Sort,
Jens Thomsen.

Niels Stephansens wife Johanne,
____ Jensdatter.

1807 Johanne Marie Jorgensen - Rubjerg (Don't see SORT in this record)
http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=166795&side=48

Qdf.: Kirsten Alstrup,
Anne Jensdatter,

Peder Sort,
Niels Steffensen,
Jacob Møller fra Præstegaarden

1810 Jens Christian Jorgensen - Rubjerg (SORT shows up in this record)
http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=166795&side=52

fadrene
Anders Laursen?, Peder __ Kone
Niels ____søn og Syster til barnet   What sister????
og Anders Møller

1817 Zidsel Marie Jorgensdatter - Rubjerg  (SORT is in this record)
http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=166797&side=53
Anne Jorgensdatter, ?? Ellen Laursdatter?, Jorgen Jensen Sort, Jens Christensen, ??? ????



Here is Kirsten Knudsdatter's death....how do you find a probate and would it have info to rule yea or nay for her as the mother?
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/churchbook/sogn435/churchlisting136962/opslag14902248

I think these records do rule out the probate found for Jens Nielsen in 1772.  That one can't be my Jens Nielsen as he was witness at the baptism of a grandchild in 1801.  Maybe this is an indication that he died sometime between 1801 and the next child in 1807.

[Karin Andersen]

Hi  

Just found this and noted the place Brønderup. Somewhere we had a hard time figuring a placename out. It looked like a Brynderup and I suggested it could be Grynderup, but obviously it is this place Brønderup.

Hjørring, Vennebjerg, Sankt Olai, Brønderup, , 10, FT-1787, A7011
Christen Christensen  33 gift Hosbonde  
Birgitte Andersd. 30 gift hans Kone    
Bodil Christensd  3 Børn af sidste Egteskab  
Maren Christensd 1 Børn af sidste Egteskab  
Peder Mikkelsen 34 ugivte Tieneste Karl  
Johanne Larsdatter 19 ugivte Tieneste Pige  
Jørgen Jensen 15 ugivte Hyrder  
Ane Jensdatter 10 Hyrder  

Look at the names here. I think several of them are witnesses at the baptism of Jørgens children.

No, I don´t think the probate from Jetsmark is your Jens Nielsens.

If I looked at this betrothal:

Hjørring A, Tornby sogn. 1739FVKD - 1798FVKD. Opsl. 50.
1765. Tiirsdagen d. 19. Feb. blev Jens Nielsen og Inger Nielsdatter trolovede. Forlovere var Peder Jespersen (død 28. okt. 1787) og Christen Krag.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127176#170601,28645136


and try to figure out who these people are:

Hjørring, Vennebjerg, Tornby, Nørre Tornbye, , 29, FT-1801, B8404
Jens Nielsen     63     Gift     Manden     Jordløs Huusmand, og nyder begge Almisse       
Inger Nielsdatter  60     Gift     Hands Kone     saa nyder begge Almisse  

It must be the same couple, if yours it is odd Inger Nielsdatter never is a witness to the baptisms.    

The best mens for the betrothals must be these two:

Peder Jespersen married to a Svendsdatter.

Hjørring A., Tornby sogn. 1739FKVD-1798FKVD. Opsl. 7.
1773. Maren døbt, Peder Jespersen og Marike Svendsdatters.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127176#170601,28645093

Christen Krag, here with a possible father:

Hjørring A., Tornby sogn. 1739FKVD-1798FKVD. Opsl. 29.
1772. Dom 5. p. Trinit. d. 19. juli. Christen Krag begravet 36 år gl.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127176#170601,28645115
Hjørring A., Tornby sogn. 1739FKVD-1798FKVD. Opsl. 39.
1789. 7. juni. Begr. Jens Christensen Krag. 62 Aar.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127176#170601,28645125

Kind regards  

Karin

[Cyndilou]

Britta,
thank you for that cool new tool....looking up probates.  I'm going to add that to my bookmarks.  

I looked up Inger Nielsdatter since I can't see anything for Jens Nielsen
I'm interested in the top one in this search but don't know what to do next.  will you teach me?  

http://www.krabsen.dk/godsskifte/container.php?funktion=gods_seeknavn_vis

[Karin Andersen]

Hi again  

The name Sort, the family might have gotten in Rubjerg. They are probably named after the place they lived called Sortfeldt. When moving this name might or might not follow them around.


I have some corrections to one of the baptisms


Jørgen Jensens børns dåb:
Hjørring A., Sankt Hans sogn. 1780FVKD-1804FVKD. Opsl. 81.
Oct. d. 6de. Jørgen Jensen og hustru Kirsten Sørensdatter Schibsbye. Søren hjemmedøbt d. 17 Nov. præsenteret for Daaben. Q. F.: Ellen Lars Mikkelsens datter i Schibsb. Mette Christensdatter Jens Frostes stifd. ibid. M. F: Jens Christensen Post? ibidm, Jens Nielsen i Schibsbye, Peiter Mikkelsen, Jens Frost. Introd. d. 17. Nov.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17123820#164083,27548453

Hjørring A., Sankt Hans sogn. 1780FVKD-1804FVKD. Opsl. 83.
1796. July 10th. Jørgen Jensen Krag in Schibsbye (now = Skibsby) and Kirsten Sørensdatter - Baptized at home Anne at church August 7th. Female witnesses: Bodil Christensen wife of Hans Michelsen. Christen Lassens daughter Helvig both from Schibsb(ye). Male witnesses: Jens Nielsen fra Schibsbye, Jørgen Sørensen ibidm (ibidem = from the same place). Niels Christensen working for Christen Lassen.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17123820#164083,27548455

Hjørring A., Sankt Hans sogn. 1780FVKD-1804FVKD. Opsl. 85.
1798. Nov. 11. Jørgen Jensen og hustru Kirsten Sørensdatter Schibsbye. Hiemmedøbt Kirsten confir. d. 9de. Dec. Q. fadd: Ane Larsdatter Christen Skrædders kone og Kirsten Larsdatter. M:fadd: Jens Nielsen af Hiøring, Hans Mikkelsen Skibsbye og Søren Larsen. Introduceret d. 9de December.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17123820#164083,27548457

Hjørring A., Sankt Hans sogn. 1780FVKD-1804FVKD. Opsl. 87.
1800. Martii 18de. Jørgen Jensen og H? (wife) Kirsten Sørensdatter af Skibsbye. - Baptized at churck Søren - Qvi (Qvinde = old word for kvinde = female) witnesses: Anne Jensdatter Hans Mickelsens h (hustru = wife) i Skibsbye, Maren Jensdatter? ibi (=ibidem = same place) Male witnesses: Jens Nielsen ib., Søren Larsen (probably same as previous (Annes Baptizm) person Søren Lassen) og Lars Christensen ib.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17123820#164083,27548459

(Corrections to the one on Facebook)
Hjørring A., Rubjerg sogn 1775-1803. Opsl. 44.
1803. Dec. 20th or 28th. Jørgen Jensen og hustru Kirsten Sørensdatter gave birth to a female child, Baptized at home on 22th ditto ( = same month = December) kaldet Inger Marii was at church 1804 January 15th. Witnesses was: Christens Broe, Peder Sort, Jens Thomsen. Niels Stephansens wife Johanne og Anne Jensdatter. Mother introduces Feb. 5th.
http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=166795&side=44

Hjørring A., Rubjerg sogn 1775-1803. Opsl. 48.
1807. Feb. 3th. Jørgen Jensen og hustrue Kirsten Sørensdatter 1 Datter fød (=født = born) og døbt d. 8de. kaldet Johanne Marie. Qdf.: Kirsten Alstrup, Anne Jensdatter, Peder Sort, Niels Steffensen, Jacob Møller fra Præstegaarden (from the rectory)
http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=166795&side=48

Hjørring A., Rubjerg sogn 1775-1803. Opsl. 52.
1810. d. 9 or 11. Februari fød Jørgen Jensen Sort og hustru Kirsten Sørens 1 Søn som blev hiemedøbt d. 11 ditto
The next is kind of messy
kaldet Jens Christian. Faddere-Ind. den ? April -
Anders Thomsen, Peder Sorts kone, Niels Stehphensen og syster (=Søster=sister) til (barnet) og Anders Møller.
http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=166795&side=52
The sister will be one of her older sisters.

Hjørring A., Rubjerg sogn 1814-1843. Opsl. 53.
1817. d. 4. oct. Zidsel Marie Jørgensdatter, Jørgen Jensen Sort og hst. Kirsten Sørensdatter Boelsfolk på Sortfeldt i Ruberg, hiemmedøbt d. 5. oct. 1817, i kirken d. 16. Nov. Moderen introduceret d. ?. Faddere: Pige Anne Jørgensdatter barnets søster, Pige Ellen Laursdatter af Ruberg, Peder Jensen Sort barnets farbroder, Lars Hmd. (smallholder) i Ruberg og Ungkarl Jens Christensen af Ruberg __gaard. Fol 225 No. 46
http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=166797&side=53

[Britta Hansen]

Søg efter navn (search for name)
http://www.krabsen.dk/godsskifte/container.php?funktion=gods_seeknavn

Se alle navne for et gods (see a list of names for each estate)
http://www.krabsen.dk/godsskifte/container.php?funktion=gods_oversigt

[Cyndilou]

Britta,
I see that my link did not work.  
and I don't see a way to upload the screen shot I took.  
I will attempt to write what I saw after my search and see if you can direct me from there.

KJAERSGAARD i Tornby sogn       Inger Nielsdatter        Kjøbsted, Tornby      14 03 1792    2    323     g.m. Jens Ibsen (is Ibsen a name or typo?  I hadn't seen that one yet)  

Karin,
You have really gone to a lot of work.  MUCH THANKS.  
I have a lot to try and wrap my head around.  
I guess it's possible that my Jørgen was born in 1772 instead of 1766.  I'll have to look at all the records I found that showed 1766 or 1765.  
maybe if we can find the birth record of the one in 1772 would help.  I guess that census where you found Jørgen at 15 probably doesn't tell us where he was born does it?  

If the military rolls we have are correct for my Jorgen then it would need to be the 1765 Jørgen

thanks for giving me so much to think about.  

[Cyndilou]

Karin,
I've been looking over some of what you have posted....I have not gotten through it all yet.  It amazes me how fast some are able to find so much.  I'm so grateful.

I do have some thoughts on what I have looked at.
1. the Jørgen Jensen in the 1787 Census was 15. Must have been born in 1772.  I've been following a   Jørgen Jensen born in 1765-66.  
I think I need help finding BOTH Jørgen Jensen's and following them a bit to prove there are two of them.

2.  I sure am leaning towards Inger being the mother.  Why was she not at the baptisms?  Maybe she died before 1793 when first grandchild (with Jørgen) was born.  I wish we could find another one of the boys from the military rolls to connect her.

There is a probate record for an Inger Nielsen who died about 1792 but it says husband was Jens ibsens.... I found the death record but it is so hard to read I can't help but wonder if it is Nielsen.  Especially where the death is Kjøbsted, Tornby  a place I've seen other records for.
I don't know how to get to the actual Probate record to read it.  
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/.../source25.../opslag5055361  under 1792 #4
I wish I could find the deaths of both Jens.


3.  The census you found in Brønderup is interesting.  Would his parents have died before 1787 the reason he is with another family at such an early age?  Is Ane his sister?  That's awfully early not to be with her family...age 10.  I sure with the birth records were available at that time.  


Thank you again for being so willing to help.  I can't thank everyone enough!!!

Cyndi

[Britta Hansen]

Probate record - Inger Nielsdatter   Kjøbsted, Tornby   14 03 1792   2   323

Kærsgård Gods, Skifteprotokol
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=194281#194281,32553123 right from the top
Her husband was Jens Ibsen [Jepsen/Jeppesen]
I am able to read some of her children: Niels Pedersen, Johanne Pedersdatter, Anna Pedersdatter

[Karin Andersen]

Hi Cindi  

About age in censuses. The censuses was made to count people, not necessarily to give correct informations. However they often do, ages though is not always correct - by far.

About probates. A probate would only be made, if the deceased left something of value.

If your Jens Nielsen is the one I think he is:

Hjørring, Vennebjerg, Tornby, Nørre Tornbye, , 29, FT-1801, B8404
Jens Nielsen     63     Gift     Manden     Jordløs Huusmand, og nyder begge Almisse      
Inger Nielsdatter  60     Gift     Hands Kone     saa nyder begge Almisse  

they are both on welfare (Almisse). "Jordløs" means without land. So these two would have been quite poor.

In regard to Jørgen, you are kind of lucke, but also kind of unlucky.

You are lucky because of his name Jørgen. It is not the most common name.

You are unlucky because there is missing pages and quite a gap between to two churchbooks.

You asked about Jørgen in this census from Brønderup.

Hjørring, Vennebjerg, Sankt Olai, Brønderup, , 10, FT-1787, A7011
Christen Christensen  33 gift Hosbonde  
Birgitte Andersd. 30 gift hans Kone    
Bodil Christensd  3 Børn af sidste Egteskab  
Maren Christensd 1 Børn af sidste Egteskab  
Peder Mikkelsen 34 ugivte Tieneste Karl  
Johanne Larsdatter 19 ugivte Tieneste Pige  
Jørgen Jensen 15 ugivte Hyrder  
Ane Jensdatter 10 Hyrder  

It was not unusual children would go an live and/or work somewhere else in a very young age. If Jens (if he is yours) always have lived on a "farm" without land, he would have had a really hard time providing for his children.

It is od Jørgens mother, as far as we know, is not a wittness to any of the baptisms. Some og the children is baptised in Rubjerg, quite a distance away from Skibsby and distance alone might be the reason.

https://www.google.dk/maps/place/Brønderup,+9800+Hjørring/@57.4523014,10.019215,13z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4648cdf802fef40d:0xece77792c736fddd!8m2!3d57.4289011!4d10.0048384


Kind regards

Karin

[Karin Andersen]

Ups. https://www.google.dk/maps/place/Brønderup,+9800+Hjørring/@57.4523014,10.019215,13z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4648cdf802fef40d:0xece77792c736fddd!8m2!3d57.4289011!4d10.0048384

[Cyndilou]

Oops I should have listed the two Jens I need to find out more about.  I guess I did say in my previous post, I need to prove there are  two....but I think this info already does that and we just need to untangle the families.

Jens Nielsen married to Kirsten Knudsdatter is who my Jorgen and other children are currently connected to in Familytree but I feel a little uneasy about it.  Maybe simply for lack of sources.

In light of the military roll listing 4 sons of Jens Nielsen and finding one of those sons in the correct time frame with parents Jens Nielsen and Inger Nielsen indicates a second Jens Nielsen we need to find.
This kind of makes me think Inger is my relative....however, we all know there could be many Peder's and both sets of parents could have had a Peder.

So my hope is to find information on both and show a distinction between them.
I'm just going to throw some questions out to think about....
Thanks for letting me talk this through with you.  Maybe something said between us will spark a thought somewhere


- I realize the dates could be wrong in the censuses but by 6 years or more?
- it may have been quite a distance to the baptisms of Jorgen's children the reason Inger wouldn't be there but would Jorgen's father go without her? He seemed to be at the first few.  I guess that blows my thoughts about both parents dying early.
- children would go live somewhere else as early as 10?
- One thing to keep in mind is that several of Jorgen's children were born in Sankt Olai then in Rubjerg  
- Maybe we need to revisit the 1845 Census which is where I came up with Tornby being Jorgen's birth place.  Maybe I've gone off in totally the wrong direction.  
           

I feel quite confident in what we know about the children of Jorgen Jensen and Kirsten Sorensdatter but going up through the parents it's a bit confusing.

Will you look at this and see if I'm even looking at the right Jørgen?

I just assumed this was my Jorgen, because he's in Rubjerg where his last few children were born, but could be way off base.

Census Year 1845  https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid5324229
Name Jørgen Jensen
Age   80
County   Hjørring  Hundred   Vennebjerg  Parish   Rubjerg  Placename   Ruberg Bye
Born date  1765  Born Place Tornby sogn Hjørring amt
Rec. no.   Name   Sex   Age   Born   Year   Marital Status   Information
18   Jens Nielsen                         Male   46   1799   Married   Husmand, og slagter Husmand og Slagter
19   Ane Olesdatter                         Female   44   1801   Married   Hans kone
20   Niels Olesen Jensen              Male   15   1830   Single   Deres barn
21   Jens Peter Jensen              Male   11   1834   Single   Deres barn
22   Ane Cathrine Jensdatter   Female   7   1838   Single   Deres barn
23   Jørgen Jensen           Male   80   1765   Married   Aftægtsmand       if him, also evidence of his second wife Maren
24   Maren Nielsdatter               Female   64   1781   Married   Hans hustru



Then here are some censuses I've found for Jens Nielsen...

FIRST FAMILY - The original one in Familysearch/familytree:
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid168108
Census Year 1787
Name Jens Nielsen Age           60
County    Hjørring   Hundred  Vennebjerg   Parish   Tornby    Placename    Kiøbsted Bye
Born date   1727    Born Place                
No of Marriages      1
Business  Bonde Huusmand og Fisker
Rec. no.   Name                                          Sex           Age           Born Year Marital Status       Information
443          Jens Nielsen                              Male        60            1727       Married   Mand Bonde Huusmand og Fisker   
444          Kirsten Knudsdatter                Female     50            1737       Married   Hans kone
445          Anne Jensdatter                       Female     12            1775       Single       Deres datter   
446          Kirsten Jensdatter                    Female     26            1761       Married   opholdende lever af sine Hænders
                                                                                                                                                              Geerninger??   
447          Hans Andersen                     Male        1               1786       Single       Hendes Børn
448          Karen AndersDatter                 Female     4               1783       Single       Hendes Børn




Second possibility - Jens Nielsen & inger Nielsdatter
only 1 marriage - I wonder where their 1787 Census is????
1801 Tornby  
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid1557290
379          Jens Nielsen          Male     63            1738       Married   Manden Jordløs Huusmand, og nyder begge Almisse
380          Inger Nielsdatter     Female     60            1741       Married   Hans kone saa nyder begge Almisse

Yes Jorgen named a child "Inger" but he also named a child "Kirsten"


Here is even another Jens Nielsen in the same area same time period.....
Another possibility because this is a SECOND marriage in Scisbye.
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid1550957

Census Year 1801   Jens Nielsen   Age           64  Born date   1737
County    Hjørring    Hundred  Vennebjerg    Parish      Sankt Olai   Placename                Schibsbye
                
No of Marriages     2

Business  Ligeledes [Huusmand med Jord]
Household
Rec. no.   Name                                   Sex           Age           Born Year Marital Status       Information   
355          Jens Nielsen             Male        64            1737   Married   Mand Ligeledes [Huusmand med Jord]
356          Kirsten Michelsdatter          Female  66            1735       Married   Hans kone   
357          Mette Nielsdatter           Female     70            1731       Widow    Enke Inderste

by the way, I hope I'm understanding everything you write....for some reason most everything seems to be translated to English but some sentences are in Danish.  I notice even some of my sentences  I write, once posted, end up in Danish.  

thanks for everything,
Cyndi

oh, and here is a death record I haven't been able to get translated on facebook.  I'm wondering if it is Peder, the brother of Jørgen.  

https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/.../churchl.../opslag14902243 Peder Jensen Record #25 Sept 1817

[Britta Hansen]

Cyndi and Karin,

Will you look at this and see if I'm even looking at the right Jørgen?

Jørgen Jensen born in Tornby Parish, father Jens Nielsen is your Jørgen, no doubt about this issue.

Please follow him in the Military Levying Rolls:
12_189 Jørgen Jensen
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#18201,1032148 listed in Tornby + his brothers

Hovedrulle Hjørring 1795  28_140/106 (lægd 28 = Hjørring Sankt Olai Parish)
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#18284,1058485

Hovedrulle 1798 28_106/84 Jørgen Jensen
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#18292,1059940
Going to 17_K97 [lægd 17 = Rubjerg in 1802]

17_K98 His son Søren Jørgensen born on March 18, 1801
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#18300,1061643

Hovedrulle 1803_17_97/68 Jørgen Jensen
                1803_17_98/69 his son Søren Jørgensen
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#18301,1061898

[Cyndilou]

Thank you Britta
I have a friend that found one of the rolls but then couldn't follow them.  She usually can follow them for years.  

That first one you listed above is the one she found.  

I do not understand these records at all.....I would like to learn.

the one you listed as

brother's main roll Hjørring 1795 28_140 / 106 ( lowered 28 = Hjørring Sankt Olai Parish)
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=16481031#18284,1058485

who is the brother.  I'm terrible at this, I can't even read the name.  

I wish these rolls followed the father as well.  and with the missing parish records what is the next best source to prove who mother is?  (besides the census which I also can't find)

from what I can tell, this is my family especially if you tied the son Søren, to the Jørgen I've been following.  Thank you for finding these.  

[Cyndilou]

Ok, after spending some considerable time studying what you have posted and other things I've found I'm feeling really good about Inger being the mother of Jørgen.

Do you think I have enough evidence to replace Kirsten Knudsdatter on familysearch/family tree with Inger Nielsen? https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LCVG-4ZR

I think maybe Kirsten knudsdatter belongs to a Jens Nielson Londsmon.... Shari Duce who's been helping me and I think Karin, both found the same Anne as a daughter to Jens Nielsen Londsmon and Kirsten Knudsdatter.   (maybe Londsmon is added to separate the two Jens Nielsen's)
If I remove Kirsten Knudsdatter, I'll need to move two of the children with her.  There is no evidence that Kirsten Jensdatter or the 2nd Niels listed are my Jens' children.  
- Kirsten was born before Jens and Inger were married in 1765.  (Jens and Kirsten were married in 1758 so it should work for them.)
- the Niels born in 1773 would not be mine because the Niels born to my Jens was still alive according to the Military roll.  

I would guess that Inger and Jens may have had some daughters but I can't find them.


Here are my thoughts:
I do wish I could find a death date for Inger and/or Jens.  
I can't help but think she must have died before the birth of her grandchildren since she is never in attendance.  Grandpa Jens Nielsen was present to all of Jørgen's children's baptisms that happened in Sankt Olai.  

After 1801 Jens Nielsen either died or it was too far for him to travel to Rubjerg where the next 4 of Jørgen's children were born.  He was not in attendance for any of those. I cannot find a death record for him.

Peder Jensen Sort – Jørgen's brother was in attendance to 3 of the children's baptisms in Rubjerg (not to any in Sankt Olai)

We don't have a birth record for Jørgen, we do have one for his brother Peder.  And the birth dates for Jørgen (estimated from census records) and Peder (from birth record) match up with the military roll.
the Military roll show 4 brothers but we don't have a birth record for, Niels or Michel.  HOWEVER
I am now questioning the mother of Jørgen's wife, Kirsten Sorensdatter, as well.  
Kirsten Sorensdatter's birth record is hard to read.  Someone translated for me: Kirsten Mortensdatter as the mother.  Could you look at the record? is it possible it could be Michelsdatter?  
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17123820#164082,27548339  
Kirsten 1st page.
 
That may be why one of Jørgen's sons was named Michel.   I found some other children born to Soren Christensen and Kirsten Michelsdatter and found a census with a Soren Christensen and Kirsten Michelsdatter but not one with Mortensdatter.  
(the census: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid162312)

Jørgen seemed to have used the naming pattern somewhat:

1st Son, Soren, named after Paternal Grandfather, Soren Christensen
1st daughter, Ann – this one is confusing – was there maybe a sister to either Jørgen or his wife that they named this child after?  I wonder if the 10 year old Ann in the 1787 census Karin found was Jørgen's sister and what happened to her.  I also wonder if Kirsten Sorensdatter had a sister ann. and if either of them died before this daughter was born.  I can't read this well enough to know.  
Can you read this birth record of an Anna, father Soren Krag?  https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17123820#164082,27548342

the naming went back to following the tradition after this.

2nd daughter, Kirsten, named after maternal grandmother, Kirsten Sorensdatter
2nd son, Soren, named after 1st son who died.  
3rd daughter, Inger Marie, named after paternal grandmother, Inger Nielsdatter
3rd son, Jens Christian, named after paternal grandfather, Jens Nielsen
4th daughter, Zidsel, no clue who she's named after.  



Could someone translate these records for me? Possible sisters to Grandma Kirsten Sorensdatter.

1757 Maren – mother Kirsten Michelsdatter from Skisbye
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17123820#164082,27548331  


1769 Johanna
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17123820#164082,27548337  
parents Soren Christensen and Kirsten Mickelsdatter?

1777 ANNA  Father Soren Krag....
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17123820#164082,27548342

1776  is skisbye there was A Helvig who was witness at Jorgen's children's baptisms.... https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17123820#164082,27548341


What is this page telling us about Jens Nielsen?  Sankt Olai
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17123820#164083,27548477

Thanks again to all for your help.  It is very much appreciated.  
Any thoughts you can share on this will be greatly appreciated.  

Much thanks,
Cyndi

[Britta Hansen]

I think maybe Kirsten Knudsdatter belongs to a Jens Nielson Londsmon

Tornby sogn. 1758. Fredagen d. 6. oct. blev Jens Nielsen Lohman og Kirsten Knudsdatter af Byen trolovet. Forlover Niels Louhman af Kiøbsted og Niels Kielsen af Byen.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127176#170601,28645134

the names are: Jens Nielsen Lønsman and Niels Lønsman

I don't see/did not find any connection between Kirsten Knudsdatter and Niels, Jørgen, Michel and Peder.

Inger Nielsdatter is the only person who fits: time of marriage, childrens' birth from the Military Rolls and mother of Peder in the church book. However, you will not be able to get a 100% confirmation. There are no records in church books, probate records etc. ....
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oh, and here is a death record I haven't been able to get translated on facebook.  I'm wondering if it is Peder, the brother of Jørgen.  

https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/.../churchl.../opslag14902243 Peder Jensen Record #25 Sept 1817

Where did you find this record?