Translation/Transcription Help, Please

[Sharon Allen]

Hello.  Please help with translation/transcription of my 3rd great-grandparents marriage record & their son's baptism/birth record.

24 Oct 1828  Niels Pedersen & Johanne Simmonsdatter (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=160783#160783,27021683) 

28 Dec 1828  Peder Christian Nielsen (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=160783#160783,27021627).

I can't make out the rest of the records. Records are from Ringkøbing-Skodborg-Bøvling parish Churchbooks 1825-1837.

Thanks!

Sharon

[Ole Westermann]

Hi Sharon

Ungkarl Niels Pedersen af Bøvlingbjerg - 25ve Aar gl.
Pigen Johanne Simmonsdatter Bukbjerg af Bøvling Præstegaard 28ve Aar gl.
Forlovere:
Gaardmand Jens Simonsen af Aalgaard og Christen Christensen Øster Aalgaard
Viet d 11te October i Ulfborg Kirke
Han vaccineret af Chirurg Bagger, Hun den 24de Februar 1806 i Ulfborg
   -------------- translation:
Bachelor Niels Pedersen of Bøvlingbjerg - 25 y.o.
The girl Johanne Simmonsdatter Bukbjerg of Bøvling vicarage 28 y.o.
Best men:
Farmer Jens Simonsen of Aalgaard and Christen Christensen Øster Aalgaard
Married the 11th of October in Ulfborg church
He vaccinated by surgeon Bagger, she the 24th of February 1806 in Ulfborg

*****************
Peder Christian Nielsen
Født d 28de December - Døbt d 4de Januar 1829 i Kirke
Niels Pedersen Bjerg og Hustr. Johanne Simonsd. Indsidderfolk paa Bøvlingbjerg
Baaren af Gaardmand Peder Storbjergs Hustr.
Fadd: Gaardmænd Peder Storbjerg, Christen Christensen og Jens Simonsen af Aagaarde
hands sidstes Hustrue.
   ----------- translation:
Peder Christian Nielsen
Born 28th of December - Bapt. 4th of January 1829 in church
Parents:
Niels Pedersen Bjerg and wife Johanne Simonsdatter cottagers at Bøvlingbjerg
Witnesses:
Carried by farmer Peder Storbjerg's wife.
Witn: The farmers Peder Storbjerg, Christen Christensen and Jens Simonsen of Aagaarde
the wife of the last one.

Ole

[Sharon Allen]

Ole,

Thanks so much!  I have a question that I hope you can answer.  What does the Bjerg & Bukbjerg following their names mean?

Niels Pedersen Bjerg
Johanne Simmonsdatter Bukbjerg

Thanks again for your help!

Sharon

[Ole Westermann]

Sharon

People often recieved a surname refering to a farm or village, they or their family came from.
It was not a name, they got at the baptism.

The Danish bjerg means mountain, but we have no mountains in Denmark, so in reality it means hill.
At https://historiskatlas.dk/ you can see maps from different periods.
At the maps from 1901-1945 and 1977-1985 you can see the borders of the parish.
And the old vicarage (Gl. Præstegaard) is just south of Bukbjerg, which is a bit east of the church.
So Johanne Simonsdatter was not far from home.
Bukbjerg seems to be 2 farms a little east of Ulfborg church.

Niels Pedersen probably got bjerg from Bøvlingbjerg.
And that is in Bøvling parish a good deal north of Ulfborg.
The cadastral map from there made 1818 https://hkpn.gst.dk/mapviewer.aspx?type=o1k_oekort&id=8222&elav=1260152
shows, that the farm Bøvlingbjerg is in an area called 'Bjerget'.

Ole

[Sharon Allen]

Ole,

Thanks so much for the additional information on names.  I guess it was a way to distinguish between two named-alike people.

Can you help with a couple more translation/transcriptions?

Johanne Simonsdatter Birth & Baptism (?):  Ringkøbing / Ulfborg / Ulfborg parish / Churchbooks / Churchbook 1708 - 1815 Ulfborg, Ny udgave. Beskadiget / Page No. 81 (right page, third entry).

https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1331/churchbook/source165714/opslag19550801

Johanne Simonsdatter Death & Burial:  Ringkøbing / Skodborg / Bøvling parish / Churchbooks / Churchbook 1887 - 1891 Bøvling, Ny udgave / Page No. 72 (entry #9)

https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1308/churchbook/source131424/opslag14073178

I looked for the marriage of Johanne Simonsdatter's parents (Simon Simonson & Zidsel Jensdatter) in Ulfborg, but didn't find it.  Suggestions?

Thanks again!

Sharon

[Ole Westermann]

Sharon

2den Pintse Dag d. 25 Maii havde Simon Simonsen i Buchberg og
Hustrue Zidsel Jens Datter, 2de Dattere til Daabs Publica-
tion som vare Tvillinger; den eene kaldet JOHANNE
og blev Baaren af Niels Weilstrups Hustrue, og den anden
kaldet ANNE KIRSTINE blev baaren af Jens Weilstrups
Hustrue. Faddere: Jens Bach, Niels Weilstrup, og
Jens Weilstrup, Peder Buchberg; Peder S. Bendixsen,
Magrethe Christens Datter Damg(aa)rd, Maren Jens Datter Damgrd
Anne Catrine Jens Datter Bach, Jens Pindborgs Hustrue, og
Niels Thyes Hustrue.
    ------------------- translation:
Whit Monday the 25 of May Simon Simonsen in Buchberg and
wife Zidsel Jens Datter had 2 daughters for publica-
tion of their baptisms, who were twins; the first named JOHANNE
and was carried by Niels Weilstrups wife, and the second
named ANNE KIRSTINEwas carried by Jens Weilstrups
wife. Witnesses: Jens Bach, Niels Weilstrup, and
Jens Weilstrup, Peder Buchberg; Peder S. Bendixsen,
Magrethe Christens Datter Damg(aa)rd, Maren Jens Datter Damgrd
Anne Catrine Jens Datter Bach, Jens Pindborgs wife, and
Niels Thyes wife.
*****************************************************

9. (Død) 24 Septbr 1888   (begravet) 1ste Oktobr - Johanne Simonsdatter
Aftægtsmand Niels Pedersen Bjergs Hustru af Krogshede  87 Aar
   ------------------ translation:
9. (Died) 24 September 1888   (buried) 1st October - Johanne Simonsdatter
Pensioner Niels Pedersen Bjergswife of Krogshede  87 years
*****************************************************

And I found the marriage of SS & ZJ in 1790:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=168305#168305,28264264 bottom left
d.17 Septembr Copulered Simon Simonsen Buchberg, og Zidsel Jens Datter.
   ----------------- translation:
The 17th of Sept. married Simon Simonsen Buchberg and Zidsel Jensdatter.
*****************************************************

2 censuses:
Ringkøbing, Ulfborg, Ulfborg, Buchberg, , 2.Familie, FT-1787, C1688
Simon Simonsen     43     Gift     Husbond  Bonde og Gaardmand  (in 1. marriage)    
Kirsten Graversdatter     54     Gift     Madmoder (in 2. marriage)  (buried 20.febr 1790)         
Anne Johanne Simonsdatter     13     Ugift     Barn af 2.ægteskab 
    and helpers

Ringkøbing, Ulfborg, Ulfborg, -, , 54, FT-1801, B9062
Simon Simonsen     58     Gift     Hosbonde     Gaardmand og selveyer      
Zidsel Jensdatter     38     Gift     Hans kone           
Jens Simonsen**     11     Ugift     Deres børn            
Simon Simonsen     9     Ugift     Deres børn  bp 5.6.1791         
Jørgen Simonsen     5     Ugift     Deres børn           
Kirsten Simonsdatter  7     Ugift     Deres børn           
Ane Simonsdatter     2     Ugift     Deres børn 
  ** Jens was an illegitimate child of ZJ and a Jens Jens tailor and bapt. 20.sept.1789

Ole

[Sharon Allen]

Ole,

Thanks again for all the help!

Let me see if I have this right:  Simon Simonsen Buchberg and Zidsel Jensdatter were married 17 Sep 1790.  Their daughters Johanne and Anne Kirstine Simonsdatter were Baptised 25 May 1801.

Zidsel Jensdatter was Simon Simonsen's 2nd wife?

   1st married Kirsten Graversdatter (buried 20 Feb 1790)
   3rd married Zidsel Jensdatter 17 Sep 1790

I can't find Zidsel Jensdatter in the 1787 Census.  I also can't find Zidsel Jensdatter or Simon Simonsen's births.  Suggestions?

Sharon

[Ole Westermann]

Zidsel Jensdatter was the 2nd wife of Simon Simonsen.

I have been looking around and found:

Zidsel/Sidsel Jensdatter is here as a maid (tjenestepige) in 1787
Ringkøbing, Ulfborg, Ulfborg, Schougaard, , 9.Familie, FT-1787, C1688
Laust Pedersen Uglkier     53     Gift     Husbond     Bonde og Gaardmand       
Mette Kirstine Andersdatter     37     Gift     Madmoder            
Kirstine Laustdatter     2     Ugift     Barn af 1.Ægteskab            
Sidsel Jensdatter                     22     Ugift     Tjenestepige            
 and several others

And this transcript from Ulfborg
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=200783#200783,38020995 and next pages
reveals, that Zidsel Jensdatter was not born there. She also had a sister Else Jensdatter, who carried her illegitimate son in 1789.
------------------------------

Marriage of Simon Simonsen & Kirsten (Graversdatter) Bukberg
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=168305#168305,28264260 left
1773 d. 27 dito (Oct.) married Simon Simonsen from Felding* and the widow Kirsten Bukberg      *Nørre Felding in Ulfborg herred
(Kirsten Bukberg had prob. first been married to Peder Sørensen Bukberg, who was buried March 9,1771 age 76)
-----------------------------
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=167188#167188,28073029 right
1762 Confirmations 'Af Felding Sogn'
1. Simon Simonsen fra Harrestrup gl. 17 aar  (i.e. born ca 1745)
Unfortunately there are no saved records in Nr. Felding 1736-48.
Harrestrup is a place name in Nr. Felding parish.
-------------------------
Searchable transcripts from Nr. Felding at http://hammerum-herred.dk/viewpage.php?page_id=34
reveals that his parents were Simon Simonsen (Harrestrup)**, who was buried April 15, 1764 age 49 and
                                               Johanne Jørgensdatter, who was buried Sept. 24, 1761 age 43
and that ** probably was bapt. Dom. 24 Trin 1714 (Nov.11) as son of Simon Harrestrup
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=167187#167187,28072950 bottom right,
twinsons, but their names not mentioned (but the one was Jørgen - buried Dom. 3 Adv. - 5 weeks old)

SS and JJ were not married in Nr. Felding.

Simon Harrestrups* daughter Anne was buried 1716, Fest.Purif.Mariæ, æt. 10 years 9 weeks (ops.21)
 *prob. wrong, as it was Simon Pølsbergs daughter Anne, who was bp. Nov.18, 1705

Ole

[Sharon Allen]

Ole,

Thank you so much for your kind assistance!

Sharon

[Niels Just Rasmussen]

Ole,

Thanks so much!  I have a question that I hope you can answer.  What does the Bjerg & Bukbjerg following their names mean?

Niels Pedersen Bjerg
Johanne Simmonsdatter Bukbjerg

Thanks again for your help!

Sharon

Actually "Bjerg" in Denmark originally meant hill and it is only in modern times it has come to mean "mountain" outing more and more the old word "Fjeld", which we for some weird reason only really use for mountains in Norway (and somewhat Sweden).
Denmark has no mountains, but a lot of place names with (-)bjerg.

The combination Buk+bjerg means Ram-hill [male goat].  
There are 18 place names in Denmark with that combination. Most of them (14) are concentrated in south-east Jutland, especially around and near Aabenraa (8 instances).
Ulfborg contains one of the 4 Bukbjerg, not in south-east Jutland, but is in West-Jutland instead. 

[Sharon Allen]

Niels - thanks so much for the additional information.  It is much appreciated!

Sharon

[Sharon Allen]

Ole,

I've found more on my Simonsen/Simonsdatter family.  Can you help with translation/transcription of the following records?

Simon Simonsen Bukberg & Zidsel Jensdatter Marriage 17 Sep 1790 Ulfborg, Skodborg, Ringkøbing, Denmark
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/churchbook/sogn1331/churchlisting165714/opslag19550901

Jens Simonsen Birth/Baptism 1789 Ulfborg, Skodborg, Ringkøbing, Denmark
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1331/churchbook/source165714/opslag19550784

Simon Simonsen Birth/Baptism 1791 Ulfborg, Skodborg, Ringkøbing, Denmark
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1331/churchbook/source165714/opslag19550785

Kirsten Simonsdatter Birth/Baptism 1793 Ulfborg, Skodborg, Ringkøbing, Denmark https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1331/churchbook/source165714/opslag19550790

Jorgen Simonsen Birth/Baptism 1796 Ulfborg, Skodborg, Ringkøbing, Denmark
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1331/churchbook/source165714/opslag19550795

Anna Simonsdatter Birth/Baptism 1799
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1331/churchbook/source165714/opslag19550798

Niels Jensen & Ane Kirstine Simonsdatter Marriage 20 Mar 1831 Ulfborg, Skodborg, Ringkøbing, Denmark
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1331/churchbook/source137325/opslag14952772

Thanks again for all your help!

Sharon

[Sharon Allen]

Ole,

On 24 Apr 2018 you wrote:

     Zidsel Jensdatter was the 2nd wife of Simon Simonsen.

     I have been looking around and found:

     Zidsel/Sidsel Jensdatter is here as a maid (tjenestepige) in 1787
     Ringkøbing, Ulfborg, Ulfborg, Schougaard, , 9.Familie, FT-1787, C1688
     Laust Pedersen Uglkier     53     Gift     Husbond     Bonde og Gaardmand       
     Mette Kirstine Andersdatter     37     Gift     Madmoder            
     Kirstine Laustdatter     2     Ugift     Barn af 1.Ægteskab            
     Sidsel Jensdatter                     22     Ugift     Tjenestepige            
     and several others

     And this transcript from Ulfborg 
     https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=200783#200783,38020995 and next pages
     reveals, that Zidsel Jensdatter was not born there. She also had a sister Else Jensdatter, who carried her illegitimate son in 1789.

The link doesn't appear correct for what you were discussing. Do you have the correct link?

Thank you!

Sharon

[Ole Westermann]

Sharon

To your last question:
Sidsel  should have been born ca. 1764 acc. to the censuses, and that is from ops.24 in the quoted link at
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=200783#200783,38021015 and next.
She is not there.

I would like to look at your other links, but just now I am rather busy with some other matters.
So you have to be patient until next week.

Ole

[Sharon Allen]

Ole,

No problem, take your time.

I'm not familiar with ops. 21 & 24.  Can you tell me what type of record it is?  Is it birth records or something else?

I've also found another child of Simon Simonsen & Diesel Jensdatter - CHRISTEN born in 1806.  Can you transcribe and translate for me?

Ringkøbing / Ulfborg / Ulfborg parish / Churchbooks / Churchbook 1708 - 1815 Ulfborg, Ny udgave. Beskadiget / Page No. 90

https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1331/churchbook/source165714/opslag19550810

Thanks again Ole!  Take your time responding.

Sharon

[Sharon Allen]

That should have been Zidsel Jensdatter.  I found her death record in Ulfborg. Can you transcribe and translate?

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=171149#171149,28728866

Sharon

[Ole Westermann]

Back in the seat again:

1790 d. 17 Septembr Copulered Simon Simonsen Buchberg, og Zidsel Jens Datter.
   -----------------
1790 the 17th of September married Simon Simonsen Buchberg, and Zidsel Jens Datter.
   *************
1789
15de Søndag efter Trinit. d. 20 Septembr var et Uægte Barn
til Kirke af Zidsel Jens Datters af Ulfborg, og blev
kaldet JENS. Dens Fader blev udlagt at være Jens
Jensen Schreder fra Stabye, Land Soldat; Baaren af
Niels Bierghs Hustrue i Kyttrup; Faddere, Anders Foldkier,
Anders Westergrds Karl Mathias Christensen, Peder Tranflods Karl
Jens Nielsen, Niels Biergs Pige, og Barnets Moster Else
Jens Datter Schouborg. -
   -------------------
15th Sunday after Trinit. the 20th of September an illegitimate child was
to chuch (of) Zidsel Jensdatter in Ulfborg, and was
named JENS. The putative father was Jens
Jensen tailor from Stabye, Land Soldier; carried by
Niels Biergh's wife in Kyttrup;Witnesses, Anders Foldkier,
Anders Westergaard's farm hand Mathias Christensen, Peder Tranflod's farm hand
Jens Nielsen, Niels Bierg's maid, and the mothers sister Else
Jensdatter Schouborg. -
  ***************
1791
6te Søndag efter Paasche d. 5 Junii havde Simon Simonsen
Buchberg, og Hustrue Zidsel Jens Datter en Søn til Daabsconfir(mation)
blev kaldet SIMON. Baaren af Sin Syster Anne Johanne
Simons Datter Buchberg; Faddere: Jens Pindborg, Jens Bach,
Peder Pedersen Buchberg, Christen Kircheg(aa)rds Datter fra Steenumg(aa)rd
og Niels Biergs Hustrue i Kyttrup.
   ---------------------
6th Sunday after Easter the 5th of June had Simon Simonsen
Buchberg, and wife Zidsel Jensdatter a son for confirmation of his baptism
named SIMON. Carried by his sister Anne Johanne
Simonsdatter Buchberg; Witnesses: Jens Pindborg, Jens Bach,
Peder Pedersen Buchberg, Christen Kircheg(aa)rds daughter from Steenumg(aa)rd
and Niels Biergs wife in Kyttrup.
   **************
1793
Christi-Himmelfarts-Dag d. 9 Maii, havde Simon Simonsen
Buchberg, og Hustrue Zidsel Jens Datter en Datter til
Daabs Confirmation, blev kaldet KIRSTEN. Baaren af
Laurids Ugelkiers Hustrue. Faddere: Niels Bierg i
Kyttrup, Laurids Ugelkier, Peder Peders Buchberg,
Jens Pindborgs Hustrue. og Mads Brødes Hustrue.
   -------------------
Ascension Day the 9th of May, had Simon Simonsen
Buchberg, and wife Zidsel Jensdatter a daughter for
confirmation of baptism, was named KIRSTEN. Carried by
Laurids Ugelkier's wife. Witnesses: Niels Bierg in
Kyttrup, Laurids Ugelkier, Peder Peders Buchberg,
Jens Pindborg's wife. og Mads Brøde's wife.
  ************
1796
6te Søndag efter Trinitatis d. 3 Julii havde Simon Simonsen
Buchberg og Hustrue Sidsel Jens Datter en Søn til
Daabs Confirmation blev kaldet JØRGEN. Baaren af
Jens Baches Hustrue. Faddere: Peder Grøn Huusted
Peder Feppenborg, Peder Buchberg, Laust Ugelkiers Hustrue
og Mads Brødes Hustrue.
   ------------------
6th Sunday after Trinitaty the 3rd of July had Simon Simonsen
Buchberg and wife Sidsel Jensdatter a son for
confirmation of baptism, was named JØRGEN. Carried by
Jens Baches wife. Witnesses: Peder Grøn Huusted
Peder Feppenborg, Peder Buchberg, Laust Ugelkiers wife
and Mads Brødes wife.
   ************
1799
2den Paasche Dag d. 25 Martii, havde Simon Simonsen Buchberg
og Hustrue Sidsel Jens Datter en Datter til Daabs Publication
blev kaldet ANNA. Baaren af Peder Buchbergs Hustrue.
Faddere: Jens Pindborg, Erik Jensen Bach, Jens Baches Hustrue,
Sidsel Rasmus Datter fra Huusted, og Anna Moesborg.
   ---------------
Easter Monday the 25th of March, had Simon Simonsen Buchberg
and wife Sidsel Jensdatter a daughter for publication of baptism
was named ANNA. Carried by Peder Buchbergs wife.
Witnesses: Jens Pindborg, Erik Jensen Bach, Jens Baches wife,
Sidsel Rasmusdatter from Huusted, and Anna Moesborg.
   *************
1806
d. 19 Octobr havde Simon Simonsen Buchberg og
Hustrue Zidsel Jens Datter en Søn til Kirke
kaldet CHRISTEN. Baaren af Knud Husteds Hustr.
Faddere: Jens Pindborg, Iver Øe og Hustrue
fra Huusbye, Peder Bendixen, og Karen Jensd. Bach.
   -----------------
The19th of October had Simon Simonsen Buchberg and
wife Zidsel Jensdatter a son to church
named CHRISTEN. Carried by Knud Husteds wife.
Witnesses: Jens Pindborg, Iver Øe and wife
from Huusbye, Peder Bendixen, and Karen Jensdatter Bach.
   ************
1831  March 20 in church
Enkemand (widower) Niels Jensen 43 Aar, Huusmand (smallholder) i Kronborghuus i Lomborg Sogn (parish)
Ane Kirstine Simonsdatter Bukberg, 30 Aar, Indsidderske (cottager), Neder ...?
  Best men:
Simon Bukberg and Jørgen Bukberg
   ***********
   and finally the death/burial of Zidsel/Sidsel Jensdatter:

1837 nr 1
12 Febr - 19 Febr  -  Zidsel Marie Jensdatter - Aftægts Kone (pensioner woman) i(n) Bukberg - 74 yo

mvh Ole

[Ole Westermann]

I forgot about the Ulfborg records 1708-1815
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=200783#200783,38020994
which says that it is a transcript of the oldest church book.

Døbte (baptized) 1708-1815 at page 1-32   (opslag 4-66)
Viede (married     1761-1814  -     -    41-49        -     67-83
Døde (dead)        1708-1815  -     -    51-69        -     84-121

[Sharon Allen]

Ole,

Thanks very much for the transcriptions & translations.

I'm not quite sure what you meant by (look 4-66).  Is it a date or page? Can you explain please?

     Ulfborg records 1708-1815
     https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=200783#200783,38020994
     which says that it is a transcript of the oldest church book.

     Baptized 1708-1815 at page 1-32 (look 4-66)
     Viede (married 1761-1814 - - 41-49 - 67-83
     Dead (dead) 1708-1815 - - 51-69 - 84-121

Thanks again!

Sharon

[Sharon Allen]

Ole,

Can you also tell me what "døde inden fremstilling" means?  When I use a translator it says "died before manufacture".  Thanks!

Sharon

[Ole Westermann]

Sharon

The Danish opslag means reference and refers to the numbers (1-121) in the left column.
If you click ex. No.(reference) 26 you see that it is page 12 in the book (bapt. 1769-1773).

And "døde inden fremstilling" means "died before publication (in the church)".
Many children were baptized at home shortly after their birth.

Ole

[Sharon Allen]

Thanks again, Ole!  You are very much appreciated.

Sharon