Name question

Startet af Ric Rasmussen, 17 Maj 2018 - 14:09

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Ric Rasmussen

My relative, Marie Larsdatter, shows up in the 1787 census.

Præstø, Mønbo, Fanefjord, Haarbøl, 6, 153, FT-1787, B2415

Name:                  Age:    Marital status:    Position in household:    Occupation:
Jørgen Cristensen   47   2den Gift                   Hosbond                           Gaardmand   
Maren Larsdatter   43   2den Gift                   Madmoder      
Anna                   16                              Datter af dette Ægteskab      
Johanne                   14                              Datter af dette Ægteskab      
Giertrud                   10                              Datter af dette Ægteskab      
Peder                    8                              Søn af dette Ægteskab      
Rasmus                    7                              Søn af dette Ægteskab      
Karen                    5                              Datter af dette Ægteskab      
Lars                            3                              Søn af dette Ægteskab      
Bodil Olsdatter   80           Enke      paa Aftægt   
Lars Persen           87           Enkemand      fattig   


In the census, her name is Maren.  In the 1801 census, it is also listed as Maren.  However all the original records have her name as Marie.

Her marriage record to Jørgen.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L94W-YD9Z

And the christening records of her children.  Here is Lars as an example.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-894W-JSY3?cc=2078555&wc=M5KH-VZ7:357517501,357801401,357956501,357986301

This didn't bother me too much because I know that census records can be inaccurate.  However, I believe I found her death record.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-994W-K9HH?i=319&cc=2078555

Here she is listed as Maren also.  I am pretty sure it is the same person.  Would the name have changed?  Are the names so similar that they would have been regarded as the same name?  Any other explanation?


Thanks,

Ric

Fanefjord, Mønbo, Præstø

Ole Westermann

Hi Ric

MARIE  is the right name.

At https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=152539#152539,25397540 left bottom
betrothal Oct.15 and marriage Nov.2, 1762 of the widower Peder Hansøn* from Ulemarche and the girl Marie Larsdatter ibid.

* was buried Febr 24, 1768 (No. 7), 31 yo

Marie Larsdatter had her confirmation 1758
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=204635#204635,38826693 left No 2 among the girls:
Marie Larsd(atter), Lars Pedersens daughter in Ulmark

I think her baptism is here No. 16 in 1744, July 22
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=152539#152539,25397385 left
Lars Pedersen and Johanne Nielsdatter in Spejlsby - MARIE

LP and JN later moves to Ulmark:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=152539#152539,25397393 right No. 5 in 1751
March 10 - LP and JN in Ulmark - KIRSTEN bp (her confirmation in 1765 no. 5)

mvh Ole

Ric Rasmussen

Wow, Ole!!  That is amazing.  Thank you!! I have been looking for her birth record for quite some time.  I couldn't find it in Ulemarke and I was looking about 5 years too early.  Thank you.

When Jørgen and Marie marry, they live in Pollerup.  The first two children are born there.

Anna - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-994W-YCRC

Then starting with Johanne, the children are born in Hårbølle -https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-994W-J36V?i=151&cc=2078555

The census records have their family in Hårbølle so I have been looking for their deaths in that parish.

I believe this is Jørgen's burial record #12
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-994W-K9XB?i=293&wc=M5KH-PY3%3A357517501%2C357801401%2C357956501%2C358003201&cc=2078555

The place and age fit.

So do you think this is Marie's burial record? #7

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-994W-K9HH?i=319&cc=2078555

I believe it says she was the wife of the deceased Jørgen Christensen from Hårbølle.  However the name is Maren and the age is 79 in 1819 which puts her birth year as 1740.  I have looked at all the death records from 1801 (she is listed in the census then) up to this point.  What's your opinion?

Thanks so much,

Ric
Fanefjord, Mønbo, Præstø

Ole Westermann

1816, died 27. Juni Jørgen Christensen - Undertægts Mand* i Haarbølle - 77 yo
  *also called 'aftægtsmand' - 'aftægt' is accommodation and support provided by the new
    owner of landed property for its former owner.

And it must be MARIE Larsdatter, who died April 22,1820 - late Jørgen Christensen's widow in Haarbølle
in her 79. year.  - Age at death or in censuses are very often inaccurate !!!

Ole

Ric Rasmussen

Thank you so much, Ole.  Have a nice day!

Ric
Fanefjord, Mønbo, Præstø