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Forfatter Emne: Translation, please - who is the mother?  (Læst 114 gange)
Tom Hammer [57359]
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« Dato: 11 Jul 2018 - 22:49 »

I thought Lilly Valborg Mathea f. Hansen was the birth mother, but see comments in record 59, Leif Moller:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17117971#155206,25923790

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Lis B. Jensen [339]
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« Svar #1 Dato: 11 Jul 2018 - 22:56 »

Hi Tom

Leif is Adopted child to Roald and Lilly.

The Parent is Richard Rasch Møller and Ellen Kirstine Holm

I Think Roald and Richard is brothers
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« Svar #2 Dato: 11 Jul 2018 - 23:14 »

Thank you. Can someone give me a complete translation? There's lots of information there.

Thanks again.
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« Svar #3 Dato: 12 Jul 2018 - 11:51 »

Den fulde tekst

59

1936 15 September

Leif Rubi Møller

(Krydsmarkeret)
Matros Richard Rasch Møller f. 5.11.1909 og Hustru Ella Kristine Holm f. 13.9.1914. Borg æ. i Rønne 23.2.1935

Se Anmærkning.

1936 4 December

Pastor Viggo Nielsen i Hjemmet
Fremstillet den 8. Jan. 1939

Arbejdsmand Augus Cornelius Møller og Hustru Jensine, Snorregade 13
Bydreng Børge Møller
Husassistent Ulla Møller
Adoptivmoderen

(Anmærkninger set oppefra)
Udtrådt af folkekirken ved anmeldelse i Tårnby Sogn, 15. december 1974

Adopteret ved Kgl. Bevil af 21-9-1938 af: Telefonarbejder Roald Rasch Møller og Hustru Lilly Valborg Mathea f. Hansen. Bopæl Snorregde 13. B.Æ. 21. Dec. 1935

Adoptivfaderen skilt Huh? 1943 19 Februar. Bgl Æ paa Rønne Rådhus med Solvej Helene f. Andersen - Adoptivfaderen har stadig Forældreretten til Barnet.

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« Svar #4 Dato: 12 Jul 2018 - 12:11 »

Summary in English:

The parents of LRM are sailor/able seaman Richard Rasch Møller and Ella Kristine Holm, who had been married
before the registar in Rønne Febr.23,1935.

Then he was adopted by Royal permission 21.9.1938 by Roald Rasch Møller and wife Lilly Valborg Mathea, born Hansen
in Snorregade 13, Rønne. They had been married before the registar Dec.21,1935. They later were divorced, and
Roald Rasch Møller got married before the registar Febr.19, 1943 to Solvej Helene, born Andersen, and RRM still has
the custody of the child LRM.

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« Svar #5 Dato: 12 Jul 2018 - 15:34 »

Thanks Arne and Ole.

What does this mean: "Udtrådt af folkekirken ved anmeldelse i Tårnby Sogn, 15. december 1974" - what happened?

Google translate says - "Ended by the People's Church by notification in Tårnby Sogn, 15 December 1974", but not sure what it means.

Thanks, Tom
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« Svar #6 Dato: 12 Jul 2018 - 16:20 »

It means retired from the national church.
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Arne Møhler [718]
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« Svar #7 Dato: 12 Jul 2018 - 17:10 »

In Denmark You will automatically be a member of the national church by the christining. The membership can be confirmed by the confirmation at an age of 13 - 14 year.

If you want to not to be a member nevertheless the reason can you step out, and if you later regret step in again.

Today only about 80 % of the adults are member of the church.

This old tradition (from 16th century) is the reason for every newborn child should be rapported to the vicar in parish concerned.

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« Svar #8 Dato: 12 Jul 2018 - 17:50 »

Does this me that Leif retired from the national church in 1974?

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« Svar #9 Dato: 12 Jul 2018 - 19:51 »

Yes.

Ole
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