Where to look for Hans Christian Pedersen

Startet af Linda Michelle Thérèsa de Bodt Rosenland, 22 Sep 2018 - 23:21

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Hello,

I am working with a DNA cousin trying to determine who we are related through.  It is obviously Denmark but we have differing opinions as to which relative it is through.  In order to narrow down the information to facts I need help in confirming a few things.

First we have Amalie Dorothea Christine Pederson born 1863 in Flensburg to Sergeant Hans Christian Pederson and Ane Cathrine Dorothea Bastian.  I am confident in Amalie's genealogy going forward as I have a number of source documents and Census documents that confirm she was born in Flensburg and confirming her marriage (no parents are mentioned in the marriage records) and children. 

Birth Amalie Dorothea Christine Pederson 23 Jul 1863 Flensburg, Schleswig-Holstein, Germany (see attached)

If Hans Christian Pederson is a Sergeant should I not find him in the Danish military archives somewhere?  Or, due to his being in Schleswig-Holstein are those records held elsewhere?  I want to confirm who his parents are; or, at least, who his father is.

(possible) Birth Hans Christian Pederson born 20 May 1829 baptism 19 Jul 1829 Skt Nikolaj, Køge, Kobenhavn to Peder Rasmussen and Inger Marie Jensdatter.  How come his birth record for Køge is in Kobenhavn when Køge is in Roskilde?

Birth Hans Christian Pederson: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=204882#204882,38872957

It appears from the birth record that the parents are from Strøby?  But is this the right Hans Christian Pederson?

Based on the census documents that I have, Hans Christian Pederson apparently lived in Roskilde in 1845 and Fredericia, Elbo, Vejle in 1870.

The key person in all of this is the father of Hans Christian Pederson who we believe is Peder Rasmussen (my cousin has him born 13 Feb 1795 Strøby, Strøby, Roskilde, Denmark) but I need to confirm where exactly this Peder Rasmussen comes from because I think somewhere along the line my cousin may have picked the wrong Peder Rasmussen and possibly the wrong Hans Christian Pederson.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Inger Toudal

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Could you please show or link to the 1870 Census?

Mother and daughter are here:

Vejle, Elbo, Fredericia Købstad, , Jyllandsgade og Prindsessegade nr. 35 - 38 Forhus, 673, FT-1880, C9909
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:     Birth place :
Anna Christine Petersen f Bastian     49     Enke      Rulle Kone            Flensborg  
Amalie Christine Dorthea Petersen     16     Ugift      Tjenestepige            *do [Flensborg]  
Maren Poulsen f Petersen     80     Enke      Pentionistinde            Fredericia  
Fritz Brun     50     Ugift      Cigararbeider            Flensborg  
Jørgen Andersen Baun     25     Ugift      Telegrafist            Thisted

Hans Christian Petersen died 4 Jun. 1877 in Fredericia: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17148267#188610,31879554 - left page

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17122716#161992,27212937 - Nr. 18

Perhaps he's here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17022111#131748,21185395
- or here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17022111#131748,21185398

- there are several sergeants by the name Hans Christian Petersen.

The question is how to find the military records using the index ??

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Citat fra: Inger Toudal [1655] Dato 23 Sep 2018 - 00:10

Could you please show or link to the 1870 Census?

Perhaps he's here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17022111#131748,21185395
- or here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17022111#131748,21185398

- there are several sergeants by the name Hans Christian Petersen.

The question is how to find the military records using the index ??

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Inger Toudal

Thank you Inger!

I have attached the 1870 Census as I could not find him on DDD.

For some reason I had expected the military records to have birth dates on them to differentiate people from each other.


Inger Toudal


His son Peter Carl Christian Petersen was born 22 Jun. 1857 in Flensburg. His confirmation 1 Oct. 1871 in Fredericia Michaelis:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17122716#161990,27212489 - No 2

It would be helpful, I think, if you could find the marriage of Hans Christian Petersen and Anna Cathrine Dorothea Bastian,
perhaps also the 1860 Census, both probably in Flensburg.
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There are no birth dates in the index to the military records. In the records themselves, you'll probably find birth dates, or age and birth place. 

Before 1848, only the peasantry was obligated for registration in the military conscription rolls:

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Danish_Military_Levying_Rolls:_Who_was_recorded_in_the_L%C3%A6gdsruller

The parents of Hans Christian Pedersen born 20 May 1829, were living in Kjøge, i.e. in the town of Køge.

In addition to the conscription rolls, there are muster rolls (stambøger or -ruller) for privates and officers, but very few of those are online:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/other/other-collection/70

Online indexes to military records: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/other/other-collection/22

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According to the 1870 Census for Fredericia, Sergeant Hans Chr. Petersen, 41 y, was born in Kjøge = Køge.

The parents of Hans Christian Pedersen born 20 May 1829, were living in Kjøge, i.e. in the town of Køge.

Roskilde, Ramsø, Køge Købstad, Bygaardsstræde, 249, 331, FT-1834, C6352
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:     :     
Peer Rasmussen     39     Gift            Bryggerkarl      [same occupation as in the birth record 1829]  
Inger Marie Jensdatter     32     Gift            hans Kone
       
Ane Catrine Peersdatter     11     Ugift            hans Døttre        
Karen Marie Peersdatter     9     Ugift            hans Døttre        
Sophie Peersdatter     6     Ugift            hans Døttre        
Hans Christian Peersen     4     Ugift            hans Søn  

Roskilde, Ramsø, Køge Købstad, Byesgaardstrædet, No 250, 200 F1, FT-1840, C7534
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:     
Peder Rasmussen     44     Gift            Dagleier        
Maria Jensen     38     Gift            Hans kone        
Hans Christian Rasmussen     12     Ugift            Deres børn        
Sophie Rasmussen     11     Ugift            Deres børn        

Roskilde, Ramsø, Køge Købstad, Kjøge, Byegaardstræde, 250, FT-1845, B1952
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:     Birth place:
Peder Rasmussen     49     Gift            arbeidsmand      Strøbye sogn, Præstøe Amt  
Inger Marie Jensdatter     43     Gift            hans kone      Storeheddinge
 
Ane Chathrine Pedersen     21     Ugift            deres børn      Kiøge  
Jens Peter Pedersen     4     Ugift            deres børn      do [Kiøge]  

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#5

Youngest daughter Mathilde Margrethe Frederikke Claudine Petersen was born 5 Nov. 1865 in Fredericia:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17122716#161989,27212423 - No 52

She's here in the 1880 Census, Fredericia: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid11021625

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Citat fra: Inger Toudal [1655] Dato 26 Sep 2018 - 00:04

Youngest daughter Mathilde Margrethe Frederikke Claudine Petersen was born 5 Nov. 1865 in Fredericia:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17122716#161989,27212423 - No 52

She's here in the 1880 Census, Fredericia: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid11021625

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Thank you so much Inger!  You have provided a lot of information for me to sift through.