Having trouble locating birth record for Christiane Marie Hansdatter

Startet af Linda Michelle Thérèsa de Bodt Rosenland, 04 Dec 2018 - 12:19

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Hello,

According to the information I have, Christiane Marie Hansdatter was born in Klakring, Bjerre, Vejle around 1809-1809.  Christiane married Hans Jorgensen Vinter around 1832 probably in Rårup, Bjerre, Vejle or Klakring, Bjerre, Vejle but I did not see a record.


Year:   FT-1834   Source reference:   181   
Cadastre/Address:   en Gaard   
Household No:   12   
Parish:   Raarup   District:   Bjerre
Shire:   Vejle   Place name:   Kleis Bye Kleis Skoledistrikt
Source entry No:   C0527   Record No.:   837

All members of the household
Name:    Age:    Married?:    Pos. in household:    Occupation:    BirTD place:
Hans Jørgensen Vinter     34     Gift          Gaardmand      
Christiane Marie Hansdatter     25     Gift          Hans Kone      
Karen Marie Hansdatter     1     Ugift          Deres Datter     

Year:   FT-1840   Source reference:   FKT-prot. B.112, F. 170   
Cadastre/Address:   Kleis Bye, 11, en Gaard   
Household No:   127      Number af families/house:   1   
Parish:   Raarup   District:   Bjerre
Shire:   Vejle   Place name:   2. Kleis Skoledistrict
Source entry No:   C8284   Record No.:   723

All members of the household
Name:    Age:    Married?:    Pos. in household:    Occupation:    BirTD place:
Hans Jørgensen Vinter     40     Gift          Gaardmand      
Christiane Marie Hansdatter     31     Gift          hans Kone      
Karen Marie Hansdatter     7     Ugift          Deres Børn      
Jørgen Hansen Vinter     5     Ugift          Deres Børn      
Maren Hansdatter Vinter     3     Ugift          Deres Børn      
Hans Jørgensen Vinter     1     Ugift          Deres Børn   

Year:   FT-1845   Source reference:   239   
Cadastre/Address:   en Gaard   
Household No:   5      Number af families/house:   1   
Parish:   Raarup   District:   Bjerre
Shire:   Vejle   Place name:   Kleis Bye
Source entry No:   C0537   Record No.:   1055

All members of the household
Name:    Age:    Married?:    Pos. in household:    Occupation:    BirTD place:
Hans Jørgen Winther     45     Gift          Gaardmand     Her i Sognet 
Christiane Marie Hansdatter     36     Gift          hans Kone     Klakring Sogn Weile Amt 
Karen Marie Hansdatter Winther     12     Ugift          deres Børn     Her i Sognet 
Jørgen Hansen Winther     10     Ugift          deres Børn     Her i Sognet 
Maren Hansdatter Winther     8     Ugift          deres Børn     Her i Sognet 
Hans Jørgen Hansen Winther     6     Ugift          deres Børn     Her i Sognet 
Anders Hansen Winther     3     Ugift          deres Børn     Her i Sognet 
Valdemar Hansen Winther     1     Ugift          deres Børn     Her i Sognet 

Year:   FT-1850   Source reference:   189   
Cadastre/Address:   5, en Gaard   
Household No:   204   
Parish:   Raarup   District:   Bjerre
Shire:   Vejle   Place name:   Kleis Bye
Source entry No:   D2032   Record No.:   1097

All members of the household
Name:    Age:    Married?:    Pos. in household:    Occupation:    BirTD place:
Hans Jørgensen Winther     50     Gift          Gaardmand, Huusfader     Her i Sognet 
Christiane Marie Hansdatter     41     Gift          hans Kone     Klakring Sogn, Veile Amt 
Karen Marie Hansen Winther     17     Ugift          deres Børn     Her i Sognet 
Jørgen Hansen Winther     15     Ugift          deres Børn     Her i Sognet 
Hans Jørgen Hansen Winther     11     Ugift          deres Børn     Her i Sognet 
Anders Hansen Winther     8     Ugift          deres Børn     Her i Sognet 
Valdemar Hansen Winther     5     Ugift          deres Børn     Her i Sognet 
Peter Martinus Winther     2     Ugift          deres Børn     Her i Sognet 

Year:   FT-1860   Source reference:   AO Opslag 42 p.168   
Cadastre/Address:   12 en Gaard   
Household No:   395   
Parish:   Raarup   District:   Bjerre
Shire:   Vejle   Place name:   Kleis Skoledistrikt, Kleis Bye
Source entry No:   D6155   Record No.:   1781

All members of the household
Name:    Age:    Married?:    Pos. in household:    Occupation:    BirTD place:
Hans Jørgensen Vinther     59     Gift     Gaardmd. Huusfader          Her i Sognet [Raarup] 
Christiane Marie Hansen     50     Gift     hans Kone          Klakring Sogn, Veile Amt 
Hans Jørgen Vinther     21     Ugift     Deres Børn          Her i Sognet [Raarup] 
Anders Hansen Vinther     18     Ugift     Deres Børn          Her i Sognet [Raarup] 
Valdemar Hansen Vinther     16     Ugift     Deres Børn          Her i Sognet [Raarup] 
Peter Martinus H. Vinther     12     Ugift     Deres Børn          Her i Sognet [Raarup] 

I checked the parish transcripts for Klakring as well as the online parish records and could not find a birth for her.  Apparently, her father is supposed to be Hans Jorgensen Due but, again, I could not find a birth for Christiane Marie Hansdatter anywhere in Klakring to this father.  Since she obviously insists she is from Klakring, based on the Census, where would I look to find her birth and confirmation of her parents?


Lisa Petersen

#1
Here's a little help -- her confirmation in 1824 in Klakring that says she was from Vesterbye, born 25 Aug 1809, daughter of Hans Jørgensen and Maren Nielsd.

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17124508#165493,27797820

and at least 2 sons confirmed on this page
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17124508#165493,27797815

Lisa Petersen
near Washington, D.C.

Thank you so much Lisa!  I wonder if her birth in Klakring was just missed?

Lisa Petersen

This might be what you're looking for...top of right page, Christiane Marie baptized 25 Aug 1809 in Barrit sogn

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17121616#160024,26901262

and the parents' marriage 21 July 1810 in Barrit

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17121616#160024,26901266

Lisa Petersen
near Washington, D.C.

Thank you so much for finding that Lisa. 

The parents are a little complicated so I am glad you found their marriage though I am surprised at how fast they had a child together considering the circumstances.

Hans Jørgensen Due (sometimes called Stærk because of his mother Anne Pedersdatter Stærk) was firstly married to his brother's (Peder Jørgensen Due died 8 Nov 1806) widow, Christiane Marie Nielsdatter Ravnsborg, 27 May 1807 in Klakring.  Christiane Marie Nielsdatter Ravsnborg died 22 Oct 1808.

Maren Nielsdatter Ravsnborg then married her sister's widower, Hans Jørgensen Due, as you found, 21 Jul 1810 in Barrit having an illegitimate child 25 Aug 1809 with her late sister's husband, only 10 months after Christiane Marie Nielsdatter's death.  :o