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Ian MacQueen [31022]
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« Dato: 11 Maj 2019 - 11:15 »

Hi

Can anyone help me please with this probate.
I am not looking for a translation but if anyone can see if it states when and where Claus Sörensen Bak died. He was a seaman and a farmer. I can make out bits of it but nothing about a death or burial.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16967859#220487,41563287 - middle right.

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« Svar #1 Dato: 11 Maj 2019 - 12:03 »

The pages you have sned are about bonds and mortgages conc. byings of houses, farms, land etc.  The real division of the estate must be in "skifteprotokoller" Here  it is about a lottery ticket!for the son Anders.
It also mentiones the other children of Claus sørensen Bak and how much they inherited 
 

The names I find written are. Anders Gaarn Clausen Bak and his father Claus Sørensen Bak from Vesteroe sogn, and Anders got this at the division the 12 december 1815, so his father had died ca. 3 weeks before that date. His wife is Margrethe Andersdatter, who is still alive. It also says that the mother are going to take care of especially the upbringing and education of the son, (the daughters are not mentioned here), and she doesn't get a guarde. The childrens money are blocked up to their 16 years, so i understand that she has to take care of the household at her own money and the 365 RD she gets. She stays in their house or estate. .


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« Svar #2 Dato: 11 Maj 2019 - 12:21 »

Thank you Grethe.
I didn't realize that. I'll take a look.

Ian

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« Svar #3 Dato: 11 Maj 2019 - 12:34 »

Ian
once again I corrected my former mail, so please read the new answer.....
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« Svar #4 Dato: 11 Maj 2019 - 12:47 »

Thanks again Grethe.
It maybe that Claus died at sea as his death recorded doesn't seem to be in Vesterø.

Am I looking in the right place for probates etc?:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17177051#194535,32587751

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« Svar #5 Dato: 11 Maj 2019 - 13:43 »

There are several writings about the the shares of inheritance after Claus Sørensen Bak.
Mentioned the widow Margrethe Andersdatter, the son Anders Gaarn Clausen Bak and the daughters
Giertrue Magrethe Clausdatter Bak and Johanne Kirstine Bak. The probate was dated Dec.12, 1815.

And I found this probate here https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=194532#194532,32587008 (ops.731 identical)
starting top left:
Year 1815 Dec.9th the probate after late CSB of Westerø p. after previous announcement on the cemetary of the island
on last Sunday (Dec.3) was performed ...etc... (ends on ops.732 left)
There is nothing about when he died - and nothing in the church records about his burial - so I think that he drowned on the sea.
And I noticed the short announcement on the previous page (ops.729 bottom right)
On Dec 5 in 1815 it was announced that Hans Kragenæs of Westerø p. on Oct.22 had gone to sea in a boat together with 2 men
(no names) to sail to Asaa, and nothing had been heard from them since !
- CSB could very well have been one of them.

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« Svar #6 Dato: 11 Maj 2019 - 13:54 »

Hi ian

His name is not mentioned in the register, But i found his probate in"Originale skifter" se here:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=194536#194536,32588054

in this at the last page, you will se there is another daughter the eldest, married to a Christen Christen, but as he owned his father in law some money he has to say no to his wifes inheritage.

Also she has put some supplement to their goods- things in the house -se here.

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=194508#19450

It is a long one, but readable. It is first finshed 1½ year after his dead. He died in december 1815, but is not in church record.

I think they were one of the richer families in læsø, and owned much, In the probate they also talk about some depts to different people. i have only skimmed it, as I want to go to the garden an work a little.

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« Svar #7 Dato: 11 Maj 2019 - 13:55 »

Excellent work Ole.
Thank you.

Ian
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« Svar #8 Dato: 11 Maj 2019 - 13:59 »

Thank you Grethe.
Please don't worry about the probate as I can read a bit myself as I speak Swedish and can nearly work out some of the words.
And enjoy the warm weather.

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« Svar #9 Dato: 11 Maj 2019 - 14:21 »

And Grethes first link is the probate after CSB's now late wife Magrethe Andersdatter Gaarn.
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« Svar #10 Dato: 12 Maj 2019 - 10:48 »

Thanks again Ole.

Ian

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