Rasmus Hansen census 1910 Colorado

[Clara Svendsen]

I am looking for:
Rasmus Hansen divorced, born in Nakskov the 1850th

I have from Family S. Census 1910 Rasmus Hansen, born in Denmark
Staying: Hygiene, Boulder, Colorado
Alone, White, came to America in 1890, parents born in Denmark,
He lives with Charles T. Knutson 32 years born in Nebraska and Paul Knutson 8 years, born in Iowa and
Ella R Axelson 33 years old, born in Illinois
Can anyone here tell me more about this Rasmus Hansen?
Greetings
Flemming Svendsen Denmark.

[Jane C]

Hi Flemming, It might help the forum to know more about the Rasmus Hansen you seek. I think you are referring to this man, below. I cannot look now at Ancestry.com to try to help you find an immigration record, but maybe someone else will.

Another place to look for more information is Family Search, a free site with many American records.

Previous discussion:
http://www.ezz.dk/587357-rasmus-hansen-gronthandler-faelles-ane

Rasmus Hansen
Born 29 JUN 1850 in Nakskov, Maribo, Denmark
Christening: 29 SEP 1850 Nakskov, Maribo, Denmark
Death: Unknown
Father: Hans Rasmussen b 14 JUL 1817 in Westerboe, Købelev, Maribo, Denmark
Mother: Mette Margrethe Rasmusdatter b: 02 NOV 1818 in Nakskov, Maribo, Denmark
Source: Nakskov Church Records, St. Nikolaj Church
http://www.arkivalieronline.dk

1860
Maribo, Lollands Nørre, Sandby, Sandby sogn, Høismarke Skoledistrikt, Nr. 31. En gård, 247 F2, FT-1860, C3191
Mette Margrethe Rasmussen 42 widow Lever af sit arbejde, inderste Nakskov
Lars Hansen 13 her child, born in Nakskov Madeskov
Rasmus Hansen 10 her child, born in Nakskov Madeskov
Hans Peder Rasmussen 3 her child, born in Sandby sogn ??

1880
København, København (Staden), Store Kongensgade (ulige numre), Sankt Annæ Vester, Nyboders Rode, Nr. 504, F 6, 489, FT-1880, D2255
Rasmus Hansen 29 Married grønthandler (green grocer) born in Nakskov
Marie Andersen 26 Gift hustru (married, his wife) born in Ørbæk

[Clara Svendsen]

Yes, it is this person I am looking for!
After the divorce around 1888, he disappeared from the earth's surface, but when his brothers were found in the U.S. it is very obvious that my great grandfather also emigrated.
Flemming
Ja, det er denne person jeg efterlyser!
Efter skilsmissen omkring 1888 er han forsvundet fra jorden overflade, men da hans brødre er fundet i USA er det meget nærliggende at min oldefar også er emigreret.
Flemming

[Jane C]

Oh good. And thank you so much for writing in English!

I cannot look now. Maybe someone else can look. In the meantime, can you tell more about the brothers in the USA?

[Clara Svendsen]

I will do my best . . .

Maribo, Lolland North township, parish Købelev Ft 1901 matr. No. 8
Lars Hansen, born in 1847 24th August married, came to the parish from Herredskirke1870, day laborer in arable farming.
His wife, Caroline, for first april 1849 in Grass Garden parish, came to the parish church from District 1876, Housewife.
Children of Lars Hansen:
Hans Jorgen Axel Hansen  b. 10th October 1875 in Sandby.
Niels Peter Hansen, for third November 1877 in Købelev parish died 8th July 1853 Owatonne Steele in Minnesota USA: Called "Pete"
Lived near Ellendale, MN. AKA "Pete" Hansen said.
Frederik Christian Hansen f.28. January 1880 in Købelev parish
Valdemar Alfred Christian Hansen, born 23rd January 1882 in Købelev died 16th August 1907 Blooming Prairie Township in the United States called him Walter.
Was 26 years.
Johanne Wilhelmine Margaretha Hansen f 31st Dec. 1883 in Købelev.
Anhart George Hansen, for third November 1885 in Købelev died 27th August 1965 in Rochester Minnesota Olmstad A son of Anhart: Dean Allen Hansen f fifth January 1941 in Blooming Praiere Township Steele. Died 16th November 1941
Hansine Hansen b. 12th October 1887 in Købelev died 8th August 1949 Mower County, Minnesota
Axeline Caroline Hansen f.17. July 1889 in Købelev, died 2nd August 1922 in Los Angeles, California. Apparently they are not Købelev Ft 1906

Left Denmark on board "Oscar II" on June 4, 1902 with his son Anhart Hansen. Arrived New York 17 June 1902. Destination: His brother, Hans Peter Rasmussen, Blooming Prairie, Minnesota.

A half-brother:
Hans Peter Rasmussen Travelled to USA before 1902
Excited to hear from you.
Flemming Svendsen

[Janice Simpson]

Hello Flemming,

Here is a link to a brief death and burial notice for a Rasmus Hansen who died in 1911 near Longmont, Colorado (Boulder County).  There are a couple of web sites that have burial listings and/or headstone photos for Niwot Cemetery but Rasmus Hansen does not appear in any I found.

http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?Longmont::hansen::2163.html

Best Regards,
Janice Simpson

[Paul Løndahl-Smidt]

Hej Flemming,

Here is Anhart etal in the 1930 census

Name:    Amhart Hansen
[Anhart Housen]
Gender:    Male
Birth Year:    abt 1886
Birthplace:    Denmark
Race:    White
Home in 1930:    Blooming Prairie, Steele, Minnesota
View Map
Marital Status:    Married
Immigration Year:    1901
Relation to Head of House:    Head
Spouse's Name:    Ina K Hansen
Father's Name:    Lars Hansen
Father's Birthplace:    Denmark
Mother's Birthplace:    Denmark
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:
   
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Neighbors:    View others on page
Household Members:    
Name    Age
Amhart Hansen    44
Ina K Hansen    24
Eugene G Hansen    3
[3 11/12]
Carrol M Hansen    2
[2 10/12]
Robert Hansen    1
[1 5/12]
Lars Hansen    82
Christian F Hansen    50


Med venlig hilsen
Paul

[Jane C]

I am sorry I cannot write in Danish.

Well, I did not find Rasmus Hansen! I don't think the Rasmus Hansen in Colorado is the right man, but I cannot find my note saying why. Paul, Janice, your thoughts? Lars's son Christian immigrated in 1900...perhaps if we find him he might be with Rasmus. It's possible. It would help to have Rasmus with a family member because there is more than one Rasmus Hansen born 1850 in Denmark, living in USA.

Do you know when Rasmus immigrated, Flemming? When did he divorce? Did he divorce in Denmark?

Here are some records for you that maybe you do not have:

IMMIGRATION of Lars and Anhelt as you posted, Flemming: Lars left Denmark on board "Oscar II" on June 4, 1902 with his son Anhart Hansen. Arrived New York 17 June 1902. Destination: brother and uncle, H.P. Rasmussen, Blooming Prairie, Minnesota


IMMIGRATION of the rest of the family. It seems Anhart went back to Denmark to travel with them:
Port of Departure: Copenhagen
Departure Date: 19 November 1902
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Arrival Date: 2 Dec 1902
Ship Name: Oscar II
The following passengers are grouped with a line, showing them to be traveling together:
* Caroline Hansen wife, married, 51 years 2 months, born about 1851, Danish, going to join husband Lars Hansen in Bixby, Minnesota [ Bixby is in Steele County, Minnesota]
*Antranh Hansen [ = Anhart Hansen] farmer, single, age 18 Years 1 Month, born about 1884, Danish, male
*Hansine Hansen, servant, single, age 16 years 3 months, born about 1886, Danish, female
*Axeline Hansen, servant, single, 13 years 4 months

What year was the half-brother Hans Peter Rasmussen born? Is this him?
1900 CENSUS
Blooming Prairie, Steele, Minnesota
Hans Rasmussen 33 born Sep 1866 in Denmark, to USA 1888
Mary Rasmussen 26, born Dec 1873 in Denmark, married about 1892, has had 4 children - all are living
Martin Rasmussen 6
Mamie Rasmussen 4
Clara Rasmussen 3
Robert Rasmussen 6/12


1920 CENSUS
Westfield, Dodge, Minnesota
Anhart Hanson 24 [ ! ] to USA 1902 naturalized citizen of USA 1908
Lina Hanson 32
Lars Hanson 72, FATHER, widowed, born about 1848 in Denmark, naturalized citizen of USA 1908


1930 CENSUS (as Paul posted)
Blooming Prairie, Steele, Minnesota
Amhart Hansen 44, born about 1886 in Denmark, married, to USA 1901
Ina K Hansen 24, born about 1906 in Minnesota
Eugene G Hansen 3 years 11 months
Carrol M Hansen 2 years 10 months
Robert Hansen 1 year 5 months
Lars Hansen 82 FATHER, widowed, born about 1848 in Denmark, to USA 1902
Christian F Hansen 50 BROTHER, single, born about 1880 in Denmark, to USA 1900



BURIALS at Union Cemetery, Steele County, Minnesota, here:
http://www.interment.net/data/us/mn/steele/union/index.htm

And here:
http://www.garyjacobson.org/unioncemetery.html

More cemeteries:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnsteele/cemeteries/scemeteries.html

[Paul Løndahl-Smidt]

Hej Flemming,

Here is Lars Hansen and his wife's grave http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Hansen&GSfn=Lars&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=25&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=31582743&df=all&

Med venlig hilsen
Paul

[Jane C]

Hej Flemming,

A man named Rasmus C. Hansen married Maren Rasmussen
11 March 1897 in Steele County, Minnesota
Marriage Certificate #F-203-HRCRM
http://www.mncounty.com/Modules/Certificates/Marriage/MarriageSearch.aspx?county=147&by=&lastname=Hansen&firstname=&from=&to=

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When Caroline Hansen immigrated in 1902, she said she was going to "husband Lars Hansen in Bixby, Minnesota." The little town of Bixby is in Aurora Township, Steele, Minnesota.

1940 CENSUS
Aurora Township, Steele County, Minnesota
Hans P Rasmussen, 82 born about 1858 in Denmark, widowed

MARRIAGE
Hans Peter Rasmussen married Camilla Laurino Juliane Fredericksen
04 November 1886 in Steele County, Minnesota
Marriage Certificate #D-243-RHPFCL
Source: http://www.mncounty.com/Modules/Certificates/Marriage/MarriageSearch.aspx?county=147&by=&lastname=Rasmussen&firstname=Hans&from=&to=

BURIAL record
Hans Peter Rasmussen
Born 21 January 1858 Sandby, Maribo, Denmark
Died 22 January 1945 Owatonna, Steele, Minnesota
Buried 25 January 1945 age 87, Union Cemetery, Blooming Prairie, Steele, Minnesota
Died of coronary occlusion [ = heart problem].
Son of Niels Mathiasen & Mette Margrethe Rasmusdatter. Paternal uncle [= father's brother] of Anhart Hansen (Lot 103).
[Owatonna is a large town near his home in Aurora Township. Perhaps he went to a hospital in Owatonna and died there.]
Source: http://www.garyjacobson.org/unioncemetery.html

BURIAL record (wife of Hans Peter Rasmussen)
Kamilla Louise Rasmussen
Born 14 November 1864 in Købelev, Maribo, Denmark
Died 29 April 1926 Blooming Prairie Township, Steele, Minnesota
Buried 5/3/1926 age 62, Union Cemetery, Blooming Prairie, Steele, Minnesota
Mrs. H. P. Rasmussen. Nee Camilla Laurine Juliane Fredricksen. Daughter of Maren Johanne Rasmine Povelsen & Frederik Jørgen Kjær. Died of pneumonia.
Source: http://www.garyjacobson.org/unioncemetery.html

More BURIALS at Union Cemetery:

Minnie Helene Rasmussen
Born in Aurora Township, Steele County, Minnesota
Daughter of H.P. & Kamilla Rasmussen (Lot 12). Stone simply says "Minnie".

Agnes Freda Rasmussen
Daughter of H.P. & Kamilla Rasmussen (Lot 12). Stone simply says "Agnes".

Baby Rasmussen
Born in Aurora Township, Steele County, Minnesota
Stillborn child of H.P. & Kamilla Rasmussen (Lot 12). Stone simply says "Baby".

Baby Rasmussen
Born in Aurora Township, Steele, Minnesota
Stillborn child of H.P. & Kamilla Rasmussen (Lot 12). Stone simply says "Baby".

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MARRIAGE
Anhart Hansen married Ina Koracine Hjelmen
28 April 1926 Steele County, Minnesota
www.mncounty.com

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This could be Pete Hansen in 1940 (Niels Peter Hansen b. 1877)?

1940 CENSUS
Summit, Steele, Minnesota
Pete Hanson 62 born 1878 in Denmark
Julia 60 born 1880 in Denmark


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Flemming, you maybe have these? from the link posted above.

BURIALS

Niels Peter Hansen (1877-1953)
Buried: Union Cemetery, Blooming Prairie, Steele, Minnesota
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Hansen&GSiman=1&GScid=83737&GRid=11158530&
   Note: Niels Peter lived near Ellendale: Ellendale is in Steele County, Minnesota


Anhart George Hansen (1885-1965)
Buried: Union Cemetery, Blooming Prairie, Steele, Minnesota
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Hansen&GSiman=1&GScid=83737&GRid=11158520&


Walter C. Hansen (23 January 1882, Denmark -16 August 1907 in Blooming Prairie)
Buried: Union Cemetery, Blooming Prairie, Steele County, Minnesota
Full Name: Valdemar Kristian Alfred Hansen
Born in "Roløkke, Købelev Parish, Maribo County, Denmark"
from the Gary Jacobsen site:
"Church book & Courthouse say died 8/16, stone says 8/12.  
Danish name: Valdemar Kristian Alfred Hansen. Son of Lars & Caroline (Jensen) Hansen. Brother of Anhart Hansen (Lot 103). Died from seizures."
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=11158536


Akseline Caroline Hansen (17 July 1889 - 02 August 1922)
Buried: Danish Baptist Cemetery (Plot: Lot 28) Blooming Prairie, Steele, Minnesota 
Parents: Lars & Caroline (Jensdatter) Hansen
Never married, No children
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Hansen&GSfn=Akseline&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=25&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=31582719&df=all

[Clara Svendsen]

Dear Jane C. and Paul Løndal-Schmidt!
Many thanks for the information I am very grateful!
There is much to introduce the family board.

My great grandfather name only Rasmus Hansen, not to other names.
He was born in Nakskov Madeskov June 29, 1850 and must be 40 years in 1890.
His wife Marie Andersen born 15th August 1853 left him 1884th She traveled to Cleveland Ohio with engineer Carl Hansen.

My grandmother was baptized in the Methodist Church in Copenhagen, so maybe grandma's mother was a Methodist.

This I know from my late aunt. (Mothers sister)
They are never found, but a letter home in 1912, signing herself "Marie Hansen" (Born Andersen)

Now, according to Ellis Island, she traveled to Cleveland, 31 august 1894th With him, she has 2 children: Carl Hansen 5 years and 3 months, and Edward C. Hansen, 10 years.

Who are the parents of the children is uncertain.
With my great grandfather she had 2 children: my grandmother and her sister were handed over to Rasmus Hansen's mother.

I'm not sure that Rasmus Hansen traveled to America, but when I, after 20 years of searching, can not find him in Denmark, I thought it was an opportunity he had gone over to the family.

Once again many thanks for the overwhelming interest.
Greetings
Flemming Svendsen
Korsor Denmark

[Paul Løndahl-Smidt]

Hej Flemming,

On ancestry.com there is a family tree for Anhart Hansen.  Apparently the person who posted it is a relative of his.  If you want me to contact him or her, send me your e-mail address to PLondahlsmid snabel(a) Lexcominc.net.  I will then try to contact the person.

Med venlig hilsen
Paul

[Homer Ficken]

Hi Flemming,

I have no answer to the fate of Rasmus Hansen, but Marie and the two children came separately to USA:

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Name:  Hansen, Marie Occupation:  Hustru
Age:  40 Destination:  Cleveland, Ohio
Contract no.:  116200 Registration date:  8/14/1894
Birth place:  ? Birth place:  ?
Last res. parish:  København Last res. county:  København
Last residence:  Kbhvn. Destination country:  USA
Destination city:  Cleveland Destination state:  Ohio
Name of ship:  Island
IDcode:  D9396H2304
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Name:  Hansen, Edv. Carl Occupation:  Barn
Age:  10 Destination:  Cleveland, Ohio
Contract no.:  116200 Registration date:  8/14/1894
Birth place:  ? Birth place:  ?
Last res. parish:  København Last res. county:  København
Last residence:  Kbhvn. Destination country:  USA
Destination city:  Cleveland Destination state:  Ohio
Name of ship:  Island
IDcode:  D9396H2306
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Name:  Hansen, Carl Occupation:  Barn
Age:  05 Destination:  Cleveland, Ohio
Contract no.:  116200 Registration date:  8/14/1894
Birth place:  ? Birth place:  ?
Last res. parish:  København Last res. county:  København
Last residence:  Kbhvn. Destination country:  USA
Destination city:  Cleveland Destination state:  Ohio
Name of ship:  Island
IDcode:  D9396H2305
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They arrived New York 31 August 1894 on ship Island and Marie married Carl Hansen in Cleveland (Cuyahoga County) 12 September 1894 (attached).

In the 1900 Cleveland census they are listed as:

Charles Hanson born June 1854 Denmark, to USA 1893, Engineer.
Mary Hanson born August 1852 Denmark, to USA 1893, married 5 years, no children
Charles Hanson born April 1889 Denmark, to USA 1893

This is probably Edv. Carl:

Edward Hansen born January 1883 Denmark, to USA 1894 (farmhand in rural area outside Cleveland)

In 1918 Edward Carl Hanson born 27 January 1884 registered for the draft in Cleveland.

He listed as his nearest relative a brother Morris Hanson of Fremont, Indiana.

Morris William Hanson born 1 March 1878 registered in Fremont, Indiana 1918.

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[Jane C]

NATURALIZATION
Carl Edvard Hansen
Record to become USA citizen
Hanson Carl Edward
Address: 8821 Euclid Ave., Cleveland, Ohio
335770-Vol. 15, Pg. 81 Court of Common Pleas, Cuyahoga County, Cleveland, Ohio
Born: Denmark Jan. 2, 1884 [The birth date is a little different.]
Date and Port of Arrival in the USA: Sept. 20, 1893, New York
Naturalized: 10-Jan-13
Witnesses: Peter J. Nash, 8903 Euclid Ave. Lionel E. Lewis, 2215 E. 78 St.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohcuyah2/nats/coarch/part2/pg0095.html


NATURALIZATION
Morris William Hanson
Fremont Township, Steuben County, Indiana
Occupation: Farmer
Born: March 1, 1878 in Maribo, Denmark
Emigrated From: Bremen, Germany
Emigration Date: Jan. 1, 1891
Landed in: New York
Ship's name:  Duhmstudt
Intent to Become US Citizen Filed: Feb. 1, 1911 in Angola, Indiana
Became  US Citizen: Sept. 11, 1917
Marital Status: Married
Wife:
Anna Hanson born Steuben County, Indiana
Children:
Ava M. b. Jan. 8, 1905 in Angola, Indiana
Helen M. b. Jan. 21, 1911 in Angola, Indiana
http://www.ingenweb.org/insteuben/naturalizations/hanson-morris2.html

An online family tree:
http://www.ingenweb.org/insteuben/gen/view/christensen-peder.html

[Homer Ficken]

We may never find Rasmus, but Marie (Andersen) Hansen died 1923 in Indiana:

The online family tree that Jane listed identifies William Marius Hansen's parents as Jens Carl Hansen and Karen Marie Christensen.

Jens Carl Hansen was born 26 June 1853 and Carl Hansen in 1900 Cleveland census listed June 1854 birth.

W. M. Hansen had a sister Anna who married Hjalmer Miller in Cleveland 1899 (attached)

In 1910 Carl and Marie had moved to Lakewood, Cuyahoga County:

Carl Hansen 56 Denmark, married 16 years, 2nd marriage, to US 1893
Mary Hansen 56 Denmark, 2nd marriage, to US 1894

Sometime between 1910 and 1918 they and the daughter Anna's family moved to Fremont, Indiana where Carl died:

1920 Fremont, Steuben County, Indiana
Hjalmer Miller 44 Denmark, to US 1894
Anna A. Miller 38 Denmark, to US 1896
Holger Miller 19 Ohio
Ethel M. Miller 14 Ohio
Hans A. Miller 5 Indiana
Arthur P. Miller 3-3/12 Indiana
Marie Hansen 66 Denmark, widow, mother in law, to US 1894

Here are the grave sites of Carl and Marie:

Carl: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=65360887

Marie:  http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=65360904

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[Homer Ficken]

Flemming, are we looking at the right family?

In the old query that Jane referenced, you listed Marie's name as Andersen.

On the daughter Anna's marriage record her mother is listed as Karen M. Christensen.

Here is Anna's emigration registration:

Name:  Hansen, Anna Amalie Christine Occupation:  Tyende (m/k land)
Age:  15 Destination:  Cleveland, Ohio
Contract no.:  40300 Registration date:  3/31/1896
Birth place:  ? Birth place:  ?
Last res. parish:  Bandholm (Lolland) Last res. county:  Maribo
Last residence:  Bandholm, Maribo Destination country:  USA
Destination city:  Cleveland Destination state:  Ohio
Name of ship:  Thingvalla
IDcode:  D9396H5115

Her Bandholm confirmation lists Arninge birthplace:

Anna Amalie Kirstine Hansen born 22 May 1881, parents Jens Karl Hansen and Karen Marie Petersen, 29 (Arninge 1863-1891 opslag 63 no.3)

Carl Edvard Rasmus Hansen born 27 January 1884, parents Jens Karl Hansen and Karen Marie Petersen, 31 (Arninge 1863-1891 opslag 31 last)

And, if this is the same Carl and Marie, why would they marry again in Ohio?

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Peter William Marius Hansen's mother is listed as Christensen in 1880 census, but his birth record lists her as Karen Marie Petersen 26 (Hunseby 1877-1891 opslag 3 no. 5)

Maribo, Musse, Hunseby, Anderstrup, , et hus, 7, FT-1880
Name: Age: Marital status: Occupation in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Jens Carl Hansen 26  Gift møllersvend  Skørringe
Karen Marie Christensen 27  Gift husmoder  Hunseby
Jensine Margrethe Hansen 3  Ugift deres barn  Hunseby
Peter W. Marius Hansen 1  Ugift deres barn  Hunseby

[Jane C]

Homer, I think it's that Jens Carl Hansen (called Carl) was married two times - both women were Marie.

1. Karen Marie Christensen born 1852, the daughter of Peder Christensen - called MARIE
2. Marie Andersen born about 1853 - this is Flemming's ancestor

I also looked askance at that 1880 census and the online tree and wondered about that changed surname for Karen Marie.  Also it is a little wierd that the former Mrs. Rasmus Hansen, divorced in 1888 and not yet remarried, is traveling in 1893 with children, one of whom is certainly not her own (and perhaps both are not her own). Although she did marry Carl right away in USA. The oddness is more that 10-year-old Carl Edvard Hansen is leaving his mother behind in Copenhagen (perhaps this is true for both boys?)...if we have this story straight.

1880
Jens Carl Hansen and Karen Marie Christensen are in Hunseby, Musse, Maribo, Denmark with their children Jensine Margrethe Hansen (aka Dora in the family tree online) and Peter W. Marius Hansen (aka Morris William Hansen] per Danish census.
1880
Rasmus Hansen and Marie Andersen are in Copenhagen, per Danish census.
1884
Carl Edvard Hansen was born (27 January; 02 January 1884 per naturalization record) to Jens Carl Hansen and wife Karen Marie, per birth record.
1888
Rasmus Hansen and Marie Andersen divorced about 1888, per Flemming.
1889
Carl Hansen was born about 1889 [to whom?], per immigration record etc.
1893
Jens Carl Hansen the father immigrates to USA in 1893 per USA census (1900 and 1910)
1894
Marie Andersen (formerly Mrs. Rasmus Hansen) brought Edvard Carl Hansen (age 10) and Carl Hansen (age 5) with her to USA in 1894, per immigration record.
1894
Marie Andersen married Carl Hansen 12 September 1894 in Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA, per marriage record.
1895
Karen Marie Christensen (Marie) died in Copenhagen in 1895, per the family online tree - no other source yet. Therefore, assuming this to be correct, this couple had divorced, as her husband had remarried the year before.
1900
US Census 1900 in Cleveland states that Charles Hanson immigrated 1893, Mary Hanson immigrated 1893, and they had been married 5 years. So the Mary in Cleveland is definitely not the Karen Marie of the 1880 census.

[Jane C]

I meant to edit but I guess too much time lapsed. I was going to say couldn't Karen Marie Christensen in the 1880 census and Karen Marie Petersen in the birth records you found be the same, given that her father is Peder Christensen? In both cases her husband is Jens Carl Hansen and those children's names and ages track through to the USA along with Jens Carl and his second wife.

[Clara Svendsen]

Flemming, are we looking at the right family?

In the old query that Jane referenced, you listed Marie's name as Andersen.

(Snip)

Hi Homer.
No, there's something wrong!
Marie was born Andersen d 15th august 1853 in Ørbæk parish Svendborg county
Her only name is Marie
She's only child, daughter of Anders Knudsen and Maren Nielsdatter.
Said family knows I did not.
Flemming

[Clara Svendsen]

The story is:
Marie Andersen, my great-grandmother, born in Ørbæk Parish, Svendborg County, was maid of Rasmus Hansen's parents in Sandby Parish Maribo county.

Marie Andersen was pregnant with Rasmus Hansen as the father and a daughter was born in Sandby parish Maribo county 10th May 1878 called Hansine Margrethe Hansen.
Hansine was immediately handed over to Rasmus Hansen's parents who took care of her.
Rasmus and Marie traveled to Copenhagen where he lived as a greengrocer.
Marie got pregnant again and she gave birth to my grandmother on the 7th juni 1883rd
My grandmother, Dagmar Marie Hansen was immediately after baptism returned to Rasmus Hansen's parents in Sandby.
Also I have naturally wondered about these actions!
In 1883, Marie delivered a petition for legal separation from Rasmus Hansen.
I have read this at the Provincial Archives in Copenhagen, but when I wanted to continue his research was the rest of arkivalierne been away. One could certainly not find them.
I think Marie has had a lover, this machinist Carl Hansen, who apparently has had the two boys, Edward and Carl, with another woman.
I will as soon as possible try to find Carl Hansen Man in Copenhagen.
Regards
Flemming Svendsen
Korsør Danmark

[Clara Svendsen]

Hej Flemming,

On ancestry.com there is a family tree for Anhart Hansen.  Apparently the person who posted it is a relative of his.  If you want me to contact him or her, send me your e-mail address to PLondahlsmid snabel(a) Lexcominc.net.  I will then try to contact the person.

Med venlig hilsen
Paul

Hi Paul.
Many thanks for your observation.
If you think of Gary Jacobson, I've already had e-mails with him.
Gary promised to ask around in the family, but I have not heard from him for weeks.

If it is not about Gary Jacobson you may contact him, you never know what it can bring.
Greetings
Flemming Svendsen
Korsor Denmark

[Clara Svendsen]

What year was the half-brother Hans Peter Rasmussen born? Is this him?
1900 CENSUS
Blooming Prairie, Steele, Minnesota
Hans Rasmussen 33 born Sep 1866 in Denmark, to USA 1888
Mary Rasmussen 26, born Dec 1873 in Denmark, married about 1892, has had 4 children - all are living
Martin Rasmussen 6
Mamie Rasmussen 4
Clara Rasmussen 3
Robert Rasmussen 6/12

Dear Jane C.

Hans Peter Rasmussen var født 21. jan 1858!

[Homer Ficken]

The attached 1909 marriage of youngest son Carl "Charles" born 1889 lists his parents as "Charles" Hansen and Mary Anderson:

If correct, then he was a half brother of both Anna Amalie Kirstine and Carl Edvard Rasmus Hansen, and the daughters of Rasmus and Marie.

I don't find his birth record at Bandholm or Arninge, so I suppose he was born somewhere in Copenhagen.

In 1910, he and new bride were living with her parents in Cleveland:

Claude B Amy 41 Ohio
Minnie L Amy 40 "
Gladys M Amy 13 "
Albert D Amy 10 "
Charles Hansen 21 "  son-in-law, teamster
Ivah Hansen 19 " daughter

In 1920, Ivah 29 is still with her parents but listed as divorced, and I don't find Charles.

He also does not appear in 1917-18 draft registrations.

Maybe he returned to Denmark?

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[Jane C]

1940 CENSUS
Aurora Township, Steele County, Minnesota
Hans P Rasmussen, 82 born about 1858 in Denmark, widowed

BURIAL record
Hans Peter Rasmussen
Born 21 January 1858 Sandby, Maribo, Denmark
Died 22 January 1945 Owatonna, Steele, Minnesota
Son of Niels Mathiasen & Mette Margrethe Rasmusdatter.

Thank you for that birth date of 1858 for Hans Peter Rasmussen, Flemming.  As we found out more, we could see the 1880 census could not be the right one.

These records, posted above, are a "perfect fit" with what you say.

[Jane C]

I think Marie has had a lover, this machinist Carl Hansen, who apparently has had the two boys, Edward and Carl, with another woman.

Now we have new information from Homer. From what Homer found we know:

Edward was the son of Jens Carl Hansen and Karen Marie Christensen. (Source: birth record, Arninge 1863-1891 opslag 31 last)

Carl was the son of Jens Carl Hansen and Marie Andersen. (Source: marriage record for "Charles Hansen Jr." = Carl Hansen)

These are the two boys who traveled to America with Marie Andersen.

[Jane C]

Flemming, are we looking at the right family?

In the old query that Jane referenced, you listed Marie's name as Andersen.

(Snip)

Hi Homer.
No, there's something wrong!
Marie was born Andersen d 15th august 1853 in Ørbæk parish Svendborg county
Her only name is Marie
She's only child, daughter of Anders Knudsen and Maren Nielsdatter.
Said family knows I did not.
Flemming

I am sorry Flemming, I do not understand about this.
I think you mean NOTHING is wrong.

You knew Rasmus Hansen's wife was Marie ANDERSEN. This was CORRECT.



Here is the old query:
"I rigtig mange år har jeg søgt min mormors far, Rasmus Hansen, født i Nakskov Landsogn, Madeskov den 29. juni 1850. I Ft 1880 er han grønthandler og bor Gernersgade i Kbh. sammen med konen Marie Andersen.  - Flemming"

When we talk about "Karen Marie," she is #1 wife to Jens Carl Hansen.

[Jane C]

Hansine Hansen (daughter of Lars Hansen)
born 12 OCT 1887 in Roløkke, Købelev, Maribo
died 08 Aug 1949 in Steele County, Minnesota (death certificate says Sena Thorager)
married
Carl Laursen Thorager
born 21 APR 1884 in Thorager, Ringkøbing
died 12 Jul 1949 in Steele County, Minnesota

Minnesota Online Marriage System:
Seena Hansen
Married Carl Thorager
02 March 1922 in Steele County, Minnesota
http://www.mncounty.com/Modules/Certificates/Marriage/MarriageSearch.aspx?county=&by=&lastname=Thorager&firstname=&from=&to=

THEIR CHILD
Arnold Howard Thorager
born 03 JUL 1922 in Blooming Prairie Township, Steele, Minnesota
died 21 Jul 1985 in Hennepin County, Minnesota
http://people.mnhs.org/bci/Results.cfm
http://people.mnhs.org/dci/Results.cfm

BURIAL
Sena Thorager (1887-1949)
Blooming Prairie Cemetery, Steele, Minnesota
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Thorager&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=25&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=65742486&df=all&

BURIAL
Carl Thorager (1884-1949)
Blooming Prairie Cemetery, Steele, Minnesota
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Thorager&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=25&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=65742498&df=all&

BURIAL
Arnold H. Thorager (1923-1985)
Blooming Prairie Cemetery, Steele, Minnesota
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Thorager&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=25&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=65742465&df=all&

[Clara Svendsen]

Hi Homer and Jane.

Maybe there is something I am wrong by:
I've never heard that Carl Hansen's real name is Jens Carl Hansen and that there is a connection to Hunseby Maribo.
This is news to me!
I will look into it!
Flemming

[Homer Ficken]

I believe record 107 on the attached page is birth of Carl Hansen, 22 April 1889.

In 1880, Rasmus and Marie were listed on Store Kongensgade:

København, København (Staden), Store Kongensgade (ulige numre), Sankt Annæ Vester, Nyboders Rode, Nr. 504, F 6, , 489, FT-1880
Name: Age: Marital status: Occupation in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Rasmus Hansen 29  Gift  grønthandler Nakskov
Marie Andersen 26  Gift hustru  Ørbæk

Website http://www.landsarkivetkbh.dk/hovedst/txt/print/lister.htm  lists the parishes for Store Kongesgade as Garnisons and Skt Paul.

The page below is Skt Paul 1883-1891 opslag 182.  The column titles have been revised, so I'm not sure how to interpret the data listed and would appreciate a translation.


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[Homer Ficken]

The page below is Skt Paul 1883-1891 opslag 182.  The column titles have been revised, so I'm not sure how to interpret the data listed and would appreciate a translation.

Here is a reduced image with lower entries cropped off, perhaps easier to read?

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