Needing Transcription and Translation

Startet af Lynn Christiansen, 26 Jul 2014 - 02:35

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Lynn Christiansen

I have a birth/baptism entry for Salman located at 1787-1802 Hundborg-Jannerup, Hundborg, Thisted img 22 pg 11-Last entry center column

also at https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-33525-9691-66?cc=2078555&wc=M5KX-GPL:357516601,358126201,358172601,358187201

I have a partial transcription but would like to have a full one as I am wondering if this is also his death notice, which if it is I am concerned, as I have a source that says he was married 9 Jun 1822 to Ane Johanne Jøgensen in Hundborg

My transcription is:

Anno: 1791
Numb: Last entry in middle column
Den 21de Maÿ fødde Christopher Steensgaards kone Sidel Salmansdatter, en Søn til ?? {baptism}, sam Dagen den paa blev hjemmedøbt og kaldet SALMAN; Daaben blev ille bakinertgiard (?) i kirke de Barner død 14 Dage efter et int (?) ?? født, ??: Mandagen den 6de Junii,  ..??.. til kirken, og blev begravet 2nd P??dag, ulle den 13de Junii i Hundborg kirkegaard
Moderen blev indlgt ??dag, som Barnet blev ??


I have from another source that his parents are Christopher Christensen and Sidsel Salmansdatter, so I am also wondering if Christopher Steensgaard and Christopher Christensen are one and the same individual.

Any help will be appreciated....Thank you.



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Research Areas: Thisted, Aarhus, Viborg

Inger Toudal


It's also the death record for Salman born 21 May 1791, who died 6 Jun the same year.

It seems that the couple later had another son called Salman:

Census Year 1801     Parish Hundborg     Hundred Hundborg     County Thisted     Placename   Vestergård
   383   Christopher Christensen Steensgaard   Male   49   1752   Married   huusbonde bonde og gårdbeboer
   384   Sidsel Salmansdatter   Female   45   1756   Married   hans kone
   385   Christen Christophersen   Male   22   1779   Single   deres barn
   386   Bodild Marie Christophersdatter   Female   13   1788   Single   deres barn
   387   Salman Christophersen   Male   9   1792   Single   deres barn
   388   Kirsten Christophersdatter   Female   6   1795   Single   deres barn
   389   Mads Christian Christophersen   Male   4   1797   Single   deres barn

Salman Christophersen's age is recorded as 29 y at the marriage 9 Jun 1822:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-33525-5033-93?cc=2078555&wc=M5KX-2J7:357516601,358126201,358195101,358197501

Inger Toudal
Venlig hilsen
Inger Toudal

Ralph Rasmussen

You should generally add a year to the birth dates calculated in the census summary Inger posted, as the 1787 and 1801 censuses were to give the 'year entered into', e.g. a three year old child has entered his fourth year.

So both the census and the marriage record point toward a birth in 1793 for Salman.

Med venlig Hilsen
Ralph Rasmussen
<1850 Hammer herred, Præstø

Lynn Christiansen

Thank you Inger and Ralph---

Based on what you both indicated I assumed there was a 2nd Salman born and I located his birth at:

1787-1802 Hundborg-Jannerup, Hundborg, Thisted img 39 pg 20a-middle column 1st entry and also at https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-33525-9313-9?cc=2078555&wc=M5KX-GPL:357516601,358126201,358172601,358187201

The 1st Salman born 21 May 1791 died shortly after birth and the next son born to Christopher Christensen Steensgaard and Sidsel Salmansdatter on 1 Jun 1792 was also named Salman. He is the one who later married Ane Johanne Jørgensen  on 9 Jun 1822 and together they had 11 children

I did locate a third Salman born 22 Juli 1793 but his parents were Christen Salmansen and Inger Villadsdatter. Different parents. 1787-1802 Hundborg-Jannerup, Hundborg, Thisted img 48 pg 24-middle column last entry and at https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-33525-9469-75?cc=2078555&wc=M5KX-GPL:357516601,358126201,358172601,358187201

Again, Thank you both...
Research Areas: Thisted, Aarhus, Viborg

Lynn Christiansen

Could I get a full transcription of: 1787-1802 Hundborg-Jannerup, Hundborg, Thisted img 22 pg 11-Last entry center column

and at https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-33525-9691-66?cc=2078555&wc=M5KX-GPL:357516601,358126201,358172601,358187201

for Salman Christophersen?

Thank you..
Research Areas: Thisted, Aarhus, Viborg

Ralph Rasmussen

The first Salman:

Den 21te Maij fødde Christopher
Steensgaards Kone Sidse Sal-
mans Datter, en Søn til Verd-
en, som Dagen depaa blev Hiem
medøbt og Kaldet Salman;
Daaben blev ikke xxxxxxxxxx
xx
bekiendtgiørdt i Kirken,
Da Barnet døde 14 Dage efter
at det var født, neml: Mandagen
den 6te Junii, førend det kom
til Kirken, og blev begravet
2den Pintse Dag, eller den 13de
Junii i Hundborg Kirke-
Gaarden.
Moderen blev indledt sam-
me Dag, som Barnet blev be-
gravet.

The second:

Fredagen den 1 Junii
født Christopher Steens-
gaards Kone i Hundborg,
Sidsel Salmans Datter,
en Søn til Verden, som
Dagen derpaa blev Hiem-
me døbt og kaldet Sal-
man.  Daaben blev i
Hundborg Kirke confirmeret
Dom 4 p Trinit. D. 1 Juli
Da Faddere vare Niels
Bredals Kone, Niels Steens-
Gaards Kone, Jens Rigds-
Gaard, Peder Jensen og
Christen Olesen, alle
i Hundborg. - Konen blef
indledt samme Dag.

Med venlig Hilsen
Ralph Rasmussen
<1850 Hammer herred, Præstø

Lynn Christiansen

Thank you Ralph for the transcription--having that helped make things clearer in my mind and helps with my documentation.  :) :) :)
Research Areas: Thisted, Aarhus, Viborg