Thoughts please: how did a poor illegit girl in 1873 end up married in Sweden?

Startet af Susanne Larson, 18 Feb 2015 - 00:47

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Susanne Larson

Hi, this is more just for anyone's general thoughts. My ggg grandmother, Hanse Iversen (or Danielson) was not acknowledged by her father, and moved around a bit in Denmark. She then shows up in 1880 married to Peder Larson in Støby, Skåne, Sweden.  They then went to America. I am just curious if anyone has any theories on how she might have got there, as I can't see she had any resources and I don't know the politics/movements of the time. Thanks for any idle thoughts you may have, Susanne

Birth
1850  25 Sep
Rudkobing, Denmark
Rudkobing records 1850-1865, ops 117 1900 Census: Sept 1850

Census
1860 1 Feb
Lindelse, Denmark
Living as foster child at Kirsten Hansdatter (1800- ) and her daughter Johanne Marie Pedersen (1831- ). The name is Hansine Danielsen. www.slaegtogdata

Departure:  1873 1 Feb  Age: 22
Lindelse, Denmark
Afgangsliste Lindelse opslag 181

Marriage to Peder Larson
1880  30 Jul
Age: 29
Hassleholm 88, Stoby Parish, Skone, Sweden
Parish Record. Per Larsson-carpenter, Hansini Iversen -dairy worker. Matches 1900 Census: Married 21 years.

Ralph Rasmussen

Getting a job offer may have been a bit more difficult, but with a job a move across the strait in either direction, København/Skåne was not uncommon.  That seems at least to have been true for women.  The languages and rural culture are similar. 

On one hand, a friend of a friend or a relative opened a way to a position; on the other, it would be good to be far enough from home that not everyone knew her story.

She may have gained some training or at least status among her fellow dairy workers. 

If Peder Larson was successful in America, he may be written up in a county history ca. 1900-1910 with his wife.  That or her obituary might mention her dairy skills. 

Med venlig Hilsen
Ralph Rasmussen
<1850 Hammer herred, Præstø

Eva Morfiadakis

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Mörarps kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/LLA/13274/A I/12 (1876-1881), bildid: C0068214_00117

Hansine Iversen came to a large estate called Marielund in Mörarp, just outside the town of Helsingborg, in 1876. The estate was owned by baron Falkenberg.

Hansine was not the only Danish girl coming to this estate working in the dairy. In those days dairy production was handled by women and these women had a high status.

Hansine left Marielund the same year and moved to Hörby to a farm called Karlsfälts Gård. There she met Per Larsson who came there in 1878 from Västerstad. He was  a farmhand.

In May 1880 he moved to a not specified place. Hansine had already obtained permission to move to Stoby in February 1880 but she and Per didn't show up in Stoby until 10 June 1880.

I assume they had been somewhere else before coming to Stoby, probably in Denmark.

Hansine replaced another Danish girl on Karlsfälts Gård. It seems Danish girls were wanted in the dairy production in Skåne. Skåne is a part of Sweden where there are (were) a lot of cattle.

Hansine and Per moved back to Hörby after their marriage. In Stoby Per was a carpenter.

Hörby kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/LLA/13181/A I/14 (1870-1881), bildid: C0066276_00315
page 403

Hörby kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/LLA/13181/A I/14 (1870-1881), bildid: C0066276_00317
page 405

Stoby kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/LLA/13369/A I/22 (1878-1890), bildid: C0062054_00101
page 1408

Eva M
Eva M

Eva Morfiadakis

Förnamn: Carolina   Utflyttningsdatum: 1882-05-29
Efternamn: Persdotter Larsson   Utflyttningslän: Malmöhus
Födelsedatum: 1880-06-21   
Utflyttningsförsamling: Hörby
Utflyttningsort: Råby 3
Födelselän: Kristianstad   
Födelseförsamling: Stoby   Destination land: Amerika     
Ensam/Familj: F

Yrke: Dotter   Källa: 
Ålder: 2   Sida i husförhör: 109
Kön: K   Nr i utflyttningslängd: 
Civilstånd: O

Before getting married Hansine and Per had a daughter Carolina b. 21 June 1880.

The family emigrated on 29 May 1882 from Hörby.

Eva M
Eva M

Susanne Larson

Dear Eva,

Thank you so much! That is very interesting. I had no idea that being a dairy worker was high status. But I suppose when you think of Danish butter and cheese there is obviously expertise!

She led an adventurous life in North Dakota as an early settler, so this background was obviously helpful.

Much appreciated.