Confused

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

According to the 1880 census for Lillerød, Lynge-Frederiksborg, Frederiksborg Søren Sørensen and Birthe Kirstine Pedersen are married and had three children and the entire family was born in Lillerød.             Søren Sørensen    74    Gift    Husfader, Husmand       Her i Sognet
Birte Kirstine Sørensen    38    Gift    Hans Hustru       Her i Sognet
Ane Jensine Sørensen    14    Ugift    Deres Barn       Her i Sognet
Vilhelm Henrik Sørensen    10    Ugift    Deres Barn       Her i Sognet
Ellen Kirstine Sørensen    3    Ugift    Deres Barn       Her i Sognet

The birth of Ane Jensine Sørensen, 21 Feb 1865, Lillerød kirkebog opslag 35 nr 2, shows the parents Søren Sørensen and Birthe Kirstine Pederdatter to be unmarried.

The birth of Vilhelm Henrik Sørensen, 20 Jul 1869 shows the parents to be married as does the birth of Ellen Kirstine Sørensen, 2 Oct 1876, opslag 27 nr 2.

I have looked through th Lillerød kirkebog and can't find the marriage.  Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

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Paul

[Bente Wanning]

 :)hi
Sørensen married Churchbook 1846-1868 Lillerød opslag 77 in 1865

Sørensen dead churchbook 1869-1892 Lillerød opslag 78 in 07. feb 1884

Confirmation Ane Jensine Churchbook 1869-1892 opslag 58 in 20. april1879

I hope it is the right persons.

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hej Bente,

Mange tak for din hjælp.  All the information you have found applies to my relatives except for the marriage of Søren Sørensen and Sidse Kirstine Olsen.  This is not my Søren as per the 1880 Lillerød census.               Søren Sørensen    35    Gift    Husfader, Afbygger       Her i Sognet
Sidse Kirstine Oelsen    45    Gift    Hans Kone       Her i Sognet
Niels Sørensen    14    Ugift    Deres Søn       Her i Sognet   

I guess that Søren Sørensen and Birthe Kirstine Pedersen were married in another parish.

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Paul                 

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Interesting that Birthe Kirstine Pedersen was living with Søren Sørensen and his wife Ingeborg Kirstine Jensen in 1860.                                                                                                                                                     All persons in the household

Frederiksborg, Lynge-Frederiksborg, Lillerød, Lillerød, et Hus, 34, FT-1860, C2311
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Søren Sørensen    55    Gift    Aft. Husfader       Lillerød
Ingeborg Kristiane Jensen    39    Gift    Hans Kone       Lillerød
Søren Sørensen    16    Ugift    Deres Barn       Lillerød
Jens Sørensen    6    Ugift    Deres Barn       Lillerød
Anders Sørensen    4    Ugift    Deres Barn       Lillerød
Peder Sørensen    2    Ugift    Deres Barn       Lillerød
Ane Marie Sørensen    14    Ugift    Deres Barn       Lillerød
Birthe Kirstine Dorthe Sørensen    8    Ugift    Deres Barn       Lillerød
Jens Pedersen    22    Ugift    Tjenestekarl       Lillerød
Birthe Kirstine Pedersen    19    Ugift    Tjenestepige       Lillerød

Ingeborg Kirsine Pedersen died in Lillerød on 15 Feb 1862, opslag 95 nr 1.

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Paul 

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

I have found Søren Sørensen and Birthe Kirstine Pedersen in the 1870 Lillerød census, opslag 9.

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Paul

[Poul-Erik Langvad]

Note:

FT 1870:
Wilhelmine Henriette Sørensen, K, under 1 Aar, u(gift), , Lillerød, do(Datter)

Strange.

M.v.h. Poul-Erik

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hej Poul-Erik,

It must be Vilhelm Henrik Sørensen who was born in Lillerød on 20 Jul 1869, opslag 2 nr 2.  I guess the census takers made mistakes.

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Paul

[Mette Lund]

Hej Paul

I have tried to find the birthplace of Birte Kirstine in order to look for the marriage in that parish but it turned out that she was born in Lillerød - so no luck.

There is another son, Niels, born April 4, 1881 (Frederiksborg, Lynge-Frederiksborg, Lillerød, 1869-1891, opslag 11, no. 4).

FT-1890 shows Birthe Kirstine as a widow but the birth places are not correct:

Frederiksborg, Lynge-Frederiksborg, Lillerød, Lillerød By, et Hus, 4, FT-1890, C4513
Navn:     Alder:     Civilstand:       Stilling i husstanden:       Erhverv:       Fødested:
Birte Kerstine Petersen    48    Enke    Husmoder    Husejer    Lille Lyngby
Ellen Kerstine Sørensen    13    Ugift    Barn       Lille Lyngby
Niels Sørensen    8    Ugift    Barn       Lille Lyngby
Anders Petersen    30    Gift    Husfader    Musikker, Husmand    Bloustrød
Maren Kerstine Pedersen    42    Gift    Husmoder       Lillerød

Søren died in 1884 (Frederiksborg, Lynge-Frederiksborg, Lillerød, 1869-1891, opslag 82, no 1).

As seen in FT-1901 Birte Kirstine is born in Lillerød on July 28, 1881, (Frederiksborg, Lynge-Frederiksborg, Lillerød, 1832-1845, opslag 61, no. 4 - Parents Peder Jensen and Karen Pedersdatter) so it is somewhat strange that Søren and Birte Kirstine were not married in Lillerød. Maybe a civil marriage?

Frederiksborg, Lynge-Frederiksborg, Lillerød, Lillerød, 19.a., 59, FT-1901, D6758
Navn:     Alder:     Civilstand:       Stilling i husstanden:       Erhverv:       Fødested:
Birte Kirstine Petersen    18410728    E    Husmoder       Lillerød, Frederiksborg Amt
Niels Sørensen    18810402    U    Barn    Stationskarl    Lillerød, Frederiksborg Amt
Ane Jensine Sørensen    18650221    G    Husmoder       Lillerød, Frederiksborg Amt
Ellen Hansine Jørgensen    18970124    U    Barn       Uggeløse, Frederiksborg Amt
Villy Agne Hansen    18941024    U    Plejebarn       Lynge, Frederiksborg Amt
Hans Jørgensen    18640911    G    Husfader    Tømrer    Herløv, Frederiksborg Amt

Best regards,
Mette

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Mange tak Mette.  I am bleary eyed from looking at the Lillerød church books.  Although this is not my family, it it the family of a Danish cousin who I have just found.  Perhaps it was a civil marriage.  I have looked at the tilgangeliste and aufgangeliste for Lillerød but can't find any of the characters.  I also looked in the church records of neighboring parishes with no luck.

Once again, thanks for all your help.

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Paul